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Committee investigating a BNE Curfew
Well it's certainly one way to completely bugger up Australian aviation.:ugh:
The earliest you could get into Sydney in the summer from BNE would be around 0830am! Travel industry and airport representatives have warned that a curfew at Brisbane Airport would jeopardise international tourism, reduce its status as a freight hub and hurt fly-in/fly-out operations across the state’s resources industry. Unlike airports in Sydney, the Gold Coast and Adelaide, which have curfews from 11pm to 6am, Brisbane Airport is a round-the-clock operation. A committee established by the Department of Transport and Infrastructure, including representatives from the *aviation, business and government sectors, is deciding whether to recommend that Transport Minister *Warren Truss consider imposing a curfew at Brisbane. The committee was set up as part of a recommendation in the 2009 National Aviation Policy White Paper under the then-Rudd government. Former prime minister Kevin Rudd’s electorate of Griffith is in the Brisbane Airport flight path and he has complained publicly about the noise. But Brisbane Airport Corporation said of the 5024 complaints about noise received last year, 3090 were made by three people. The committee is accepting submissions until October 31. Travel industry sources said they were concerned the debate over a curfew at Brisbane, which has the largest footprint of any capital city airport, could fuel calls for one in Perth. In a draft submission, industry lobby group Tourism and Transport Forum said a curfew could cost Brisbane Airport its role as a diversion destination for flights that cannot make it to Sydney, Newcastle or the Gold Coast by the time curfews set in due to poor weather. “A curfew would prevent Brisbane Airport from accommodating diverted flights overnight,” the group said. “This would result in many flights unable to meet Australian curfews to be cancelled or postponed overnight as airlines would be unwilling to take the risk of having no landing site.” TTF chief executive Ken Morrison is one of five committee members who will consider all the submissions. A draft joint submission from the Australian Tourism Export Council and the Queensland Tourism Industry Council said a curfew would hurt Brisbane hotels and limit the appeal of holding major events in the city. Brisbane Airport Corporation said based on current aircraft movement data, a curfew would affect 19 per cent of international and 3 per cent of domestic passenger movements through the airport and have a negative effect on round-the-clock freight operations. Emirates and Cathay Pacific have flights that land after 11pm and take off on return flights before 6am that are at risk of being cut if a curfew is imposed. There are domestic flights from 5am during daylight savings time to Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra. If pushed back an hour, they would land at the busiest time of day for those airports and would be unlikely to get landing slots. Flights to resources destinations such as *Emerald, Roma and Moranbah between 5am and 6am would need to be rescheduled. http://dontcurfewbne.com/docs/BAC_su...28FINAL%29.pdf http://dontcurfewbne.com/docs/FINAL_...SION_PAPER.pdf |
Bring it On!
No daylight saving, no departure prior to 6am with no arrival beyond 23:00. Great idea(unless your travelling of course). |
Idiots. As if areas of Australia aren't doing it tough enough already. Curfews should be a thing of the past, if residents don't like the noise then bugger off elsewhere. Airports generally cannot relocate. Brisbane is already a problem child when it comes to airline traffic. A curfew would take Brisbane backwards, not forwards like the rest of the world is moving.
Besides, BAC would lose a stack of revenue, and have you ever seen how ugly things get when the Dutch lose money? |
then-Rudd government |
Sir, I have been made aware that a Committee has been established by the Department of Transport and Infrastructure who are now considering the merits of recommending a curfew for Brisbane Airport. I also understand that this Committee is a result of a recommendation in the 2009 National Aviation Policy White Paper under the then Rudd Government. As an Airline Captain with Virgin Australia and a resident of Brisbane it concerns me greatly that such a proposal is even under consideration. For example during daylight savings an aircraft would not be able to depart BNE for SYD until 6 am arriving at 830 am in SYD. The last legal departure from SYD would be at 1030 pm Sydney time meaning the last arrival from SYD into BNE would be 1100. Taking into account the usual holding that is imposed at this time of night (40 minutes) it is probable the last realistic flight out of SYD for BNE will be at 930 pm. The business community will be baying for blood when they appreciate the impact on their normal day to day operations. It is incomprehensible that the nation's third busiest Airport would be closed for 30% of the day. The nonsense of a curfew is mind bogglingly stupid and once in place will never be removed. The impact on the Airline operators, the Airport operator and the immense number of companies and staff that are dependent upon a 24 hour operation will be immense. Why would a second runway be of any use when it can't be used for 30% of the day. Please consign this politically driven hangover from the previous Government to the rubbish bin where it most certainly deserves to be.
Sent to Prime Minister T Abbott, W Truss, and my local member. If we don't complain now we cant complain afterwards! |
Unbelievable
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Travel industry sources said they were concerned the debate over a curfew at Brisbane, which has the largest footprint of any capital city airport, could fuel calls for one in Perth. |
But Brisbane Airport Corporation said of the 5024 complaints about noise received last year, 3090 were made by three people |
3090 were made by three people |
I got the FO to do the maths for me :E
3090/3 is about 1030 each 1030/52 is about 20 a week EACH. Maybe the cheapest option is to buy all three people new houses elsewhere? |
Logan !
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Chimbu, here's one
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/airport-noise-is-making-him-plane-mad/story-e6freoof-1226514344805 |
I have to ask the obvious but why did he buy near a major city airport
where it is obvious to most that flying is increasing. |
Mr Bill, whose family has lived in the house since the early 1970s, said Brisbane residents were promised aircraft would take off and land over the bay when the new airport was built, and he's holding authorities to that promise. |
Aircraft do take off and land over the bay so they have kept their promise - it just doesn't happen concurrently for most of the day!
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Perhaps it wasn't a 'Core Promise'..??
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Mr Bill, whose family has lived in the house since the early 1970s |
Interesting site. Webtrak Airservices
I looked at it for a quarter hour or so - some of the monitoring points seem to have higher readings when there are no flights in the vicinity than when they do! I have always found it astounding that people choose to buy under a flight path, then complain of noise. And more so, that they get people to listen to them. |
look at the bright side, anything that gets you signed off by about 11pm cant be a bad thing, surely?:ok:
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