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-_HowUdoiN_- 16th Oct 2013 03:33

Qlink to Cobham: If you can't beat em, join em?
 
Has there been anyone from Qlink that has joined Cobham recently, specifically the NJS B717 contract for Qlink and would be happy to post or PM me their experience whether good or bad? Is there anyone at Qlink thinking of going to Cobham?

Also if there are any current drivers able to describe what the mood is like with all the base expansions and new equipment coming?

And if someone could also answer these questions I have:

What are the chances of getting Brisbane FO basing?

Do you currently get Qantas staff travel? What is the priority?

How many sims do you do a year? Where is/are the sim(s) located?

How many hours flying/duty per roster? Overnights?

What are the requirements for Command? Roughly how long have people been with the company that have just been upgraded?


Any answers, constructive posts or general career advise would be highly welcomed, however there are plenty of other threads to have a general Qlink or Cobham bashing. :ok:


It seems if your dream was to one day fly a jet, you gotta apply to companies that operate jets... who knew... :ugh: Just want some info to make an informed decision.

Going Nowhere 16th Oct 2013 04:37

BNE Base? Probably 0% chance.

A few BNE-based QLink crew applied and were given a base in DRW/HBA/CBA and most so far have declined.

Capt Claret 16th Oct 2013 08:44



And if someone could also answer these questions I have:
  1. What are the chances of getting Brisbane FO basing?
  2. Do you currently get Qantas staff travel? What is the priority?
  3. How many sims do you do a year? Where is/are the sim(s) located?
  4. How many hours flying/duty per roster? Overnights?
  5. What are the requirements for Command? Roughly how long have people been with the company that have just been upgraded?
  6. It seems if your dream was to one day fly a jet, you gotta apply to companies that operate jets... who knew... Just want some info to make an informed decision.

1. Improbable in the short term but not impossible.

2. Yes after qualifying period. I don't think there is a lower priority.

3. Twice annually, two consecutive days, 4 hours per session. Sim is at Alteon Centre near the old BNE Intl terminal.

4. Depends upon base, from almost no overnights to almost every trip being overnight. Hours also vary with base.

5. 5000 total, 500 IFR PIC, 1500 > 5700 kg, 1000 jet > 15000 kg. 5 years or less for some.

6. It has never been any different.

airdualbleedfault 18th Oct 2013 04:39

Howudoin, you could try Network, better staff travel, worse aircraft, similar or better time to command, only Perth base at present, less money I believe but supposedly improving, wholly owned subsidiary

travelator 18th Oct 2013 04:47

Claret, cobham have the lowest possible on load priority and not upgradable. Expect everybody else to get on before you but still not impossible to use.

-_HowUdoiN_- 18th Oct 2013 07:31

Thankyou CC and GN for the replies and also those for the PM's. Very much appreciated and good to see all constructive comments thus far!

Thanks also airdualbleedfault for the advice, I have considered Network and it is not off the table completely, probably the only couple of things swaying my thoughts would be they only have a Perth base, so no chance of getting to the east coast, and having had a look at the F100 and B717 on the inside I do have to say the 71 looks like a nicer bit of kit (personal preference i guess).

Although there is the argument that flying a jet is flying a jet, doesn't really matter what it looks like, and I do hear a rumour that network could be getting some nicer equipment... I wonder if there is anyone in the know that would like to confirm it?...:E

bodybag 18th Oct 2013 09:47

"Is there anyone at Qlink thinking of going to Cobham?"

The issue that your going to have is that Cobham would not employ the MAJORITY of the pilots at Qlink. Cobham have relatively high standards compared to Qlink.

You don't get to just "think of it" and then "make an informed decision". You'll still have to be selected.. which my friend (based on the way you write your post) you will struggle with a great deal.. (even with all that valuable dash time!!!)

airdualbleedfault 18th Oct 2013 10:30

Howudoin, by all counts the McBoeing is a far better bit of kit than the FTruck, that said the Fokker is no 146 (in a good way)
My source at Notwork tells me that bigger equipment is on the cards which is completely logical considering they are using mainline NGs on 2 of the contracts, so it would almost certainly be Airbus. Of course, not everything QF do is logical.
An east coast base for them is also a strong possibility down the track

Buttscratcher 18th Oct 2013 10:46

Doesn't Alliance operate a few mine contracts out of BNE for Qantas/Network at the moment?
I heard the rumour at QF that Network were getting some older 320s from Jet*
Dunno tho, didn't pay much attention at the time

Fuel-Off 18th Oct 2013 11:42

Butts...no...

Alliance is only providing F100s on wet lease for the Emerald, Rocky and Mackay RPT routes (which apparently is wrapping up as the new Q400s arrive) The 717s and F100s are being used on those routes out of Brisbane while all the Dash 8s are redeployed on their 20 flights/day to Moranbah and 17+ flights/day to Roma. Network isn't the only charter airline in the Group ;)

Fuel-Off :ok:

Capt Claret 18th Oct 2013 12:06

G'day Travelator, didn't I say that but in less words? :}

Buttscratcher 18th Oct 2013 14:10

Ah so, thanks Fueler, I'm way off again, my bad

Fonz121 18th Oct 2013 14:16


The issue that your going to have is that Cobham would not employ the MAJORITY of the pilots at Qlink. Cobham have relatively high standards compared to Qlink.
Is this guy ^ for real?

captain69 18th Oct 2013 14:19

Go NJS, save a spot for me.

Capt 69

Berealgetreal 18th Oct 2013 18:32

I assume left seat is your goal or you would be applying for Majors. In which case you are one of the few that have worked out the numbers.

Fuel-Off 18th Oct 2013 23:32


The issue that your going to have is that Cobham would not employ the MAJORITY of the pilots at Qlink. Cobham have relatively high standards compared to Qlink
So having said that bodybags, Cobham's high standards would leave the company incident free? All those pesky faux pas recently where the drivers have entered the wrong weights into the FMS and consequently got a stick shaker into Alice...twice! Or that rejected take off out of Perth recently because again, the incorrect weights were entered and an incorrect V1 was spat out. Less said about the impact crater in Darwin the better...

Hell, QLink has had its fair share of faux pas too...but we certainly don't think ourselves as any better because we're the wholly owned subsidiary. Pull your head in and put away the pork ruler bodybags. We all fly in the same sky.

The problem here is ladies and germs is that in order to move on up in the industry in this country now is to resign and employed by another entity who coincidentally flies the same coloured tail! Years of service count for naught, seniority shot to buggery when we've got this Americanised system of corporate Australia every slowly wrapping it's tentacles around the necks of the 99% who work for a living.

Fuel-Off :ok:

DeafStar 18th Oct 2013 23:49

And let's not forget the Darwin Hammer. Bodybags is a bad troll.

AviatoR21 19th Oct 2013 00:50

That's probably why mainline do not wish to allow Cobham to wear QF uniforms unlike SSA and EEA pilots! Just a joke.

travelator 19th Oct 2013 01:17


The problem here is ladies and germs is that in order to move on up in the industry in this country now is to resign and employed by another entity who coincidentally flies the same coloured tail!
Same tail or otherwise, when has this ever not been the case for SSA/EAA? If you want to fly a jet, get a job with a jet operator, don't wait for one to be dropped into your lap.

I understand what you are saying now claret.

I don't think there is a lower priority.
than cobham.

who_cares 19th Oct 2013 23:53

If you are looking to move on from Qlink, why not also look at Jetconnect, at least it's a 737 rating


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