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Ka.Boom 18th May 2013 03:09

QF Leasing Rumours
 
Rumours from mates in the sandpit indicate a leasing arrangment between EK and QF is under consideration.
EK paint up some aircraft in QF colours and leases them.These aircraft will then fly into airports where EK has used all its landing slots.Subject to bilateral agreements this arrangement would appear to have some merit
What type of lease(wet lease?) and what type of aircraft has not been forthcoming

Capt_SNAFU 18th May 2013 03:12

Rumours of another Large 380 order coming from the sandpit aswell, to go on top of the big order the already have.

Chocks Away 18th May 2013 04:35

Yes K.B, I would put money on it.
I thought that was a pretty obvious reason why EK went into this QF/EK deal to start with... to utilise all the unused slots of QF, globally and access more of the Oz market which is lucrative for them.
I'm afraid it may all be just a one way road... if wet leases... BUT given EK can't get enough trained/qualified crew & trained in time (bottlenecked), it may work out as dry leases.

Might see what that dick lil'Tommy Waterhouse has on it :}

Happy landings :ok:

Ngineer 18th May 2013 07:02

I bet it's the B777. Yippee!!

ButFli 18th May 2013 11:36

I've been hearing rumours right from the start of this EK/QF thing that QF would be getting 777s out of it.

The main one I heard was that QF would get some of EK's delivery slots off the production line for new-build 777s. I guess a lease is better than nothing.

halas 18th May 2013 11:46

Dreamin! :hmm:

halas

Watchdog 18th May 2013 12:07

Pffft 777's...Pure fantasy....380's will use any slots.

Conductor 19th May 2013 00:50

Here we go again. :rolleyes:

When and if it's sitting at the QF gate in QF colours (and hopefully with QF crew) then I will believe it. Until then, 'fraid not. :ugh:

Ramboflyer 1 19th May 2013 01:27

With QF Crews costing double the EK crews it will be a wet lease or a contract position.
EK do not throw money away.

KRUSTY 34 19th May 2013 01:40

Half the cost of a QF crew!

Have things become that bad in the Sandpit?

FYSTI 19th May 2013 01:43


With QF Crews costing double the EK crews
Source?
Did you take into account housing / medical / education / provident fund / utilities in your calculation? ie there is an "implicit tax" on companies operating in the UAE, as opposed to an explicit one for Oz operations.

pull-up-terrain 19th May 2013 02:08


With QF Crews costing double the EK crews it will be a wet lease or a contract position.
EK do not throw money away.
They definitely wouldn't be half the price, even if they were cheaper when the Australian dollar drops to prices before the gfc it will even out. I know for lame's at emirates when you add up everything in the package like housing, school, medical etc, it costs emirates about $10k less than a qantas lame but when the Australian dollar drops to below $0.90 to the us dollar it will even out.

Fliegenmong 19th May 2013 03:06

How would dual liveries affect the A/C on a conveyor belt? :}

Ka.Boom 19th May 2013 03:18

Dual Liveries
 
How about dual Qantas-Emirates liveries? | Plane Talking

Flying Spag Monster 20th May 2013 07:40

Next year sometime DXB will be down to single runway ops for a few months, this will obviously impact capacity. Perhaps over this period some excess EK airframes (777s) might be deployed with QF instead of parking them....?

Hugh Gorgen 20th May 2013 11:08

Rumour around QF Fleet is that Qantas is looking for additional A330s as a stopgap until the 787-9 arrives (Assuming that they do arrive). Rumoured number varies from 2 to 10 frames. Based in Perth perhaps?

halas 20th May 2013 18:04

330's.... What's he ask'n?
777's.... Tell i'm he's dreamin!

halas

Sunfish 20th May 2013 21:54

It matters not. Qantas is now just another business name for Emirates. Furthermore, when the Sunni/Shia war starts, you are going to wish you had never heard of the Middle East.

ruprecht 20th May 2013 22:45


Furthermore, when the Sunni/Shia war starts
It started centuries ago. Hasn't stopped since....:hmm:

Taildragger67 21st May 2013 10:27


Rumours of another Large 380 order coming from the sandpit aswell, to go on top of the big order the already have.

Hasn't Tim Clark been saying for a while that they want another 30 x A380s?


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