Jetstar New Zealand Contract
 

Hearing whispers that our colleagues in NZ may have had some good news. Any truth to the rumour that a new contract is imminent?? And if so any idea of rough numbers??

Heard around 90k...

na more like 178k base for 65hrs

New base is well short of that...

Are we talking captains or FO's? Would be useful for those in the know to give us a ballpark figure.

I have spoken to a colleague and the figures are approx:

FO base $90k
FO more than 2 years $99k

Captain base $165k
Captain more than 2 years $170k

Queenstown Qualified Captains plus 5k (base) and $40 per ZQN approach
Queenstown Qualified FO's plus 3k (base) and $20 per ZQN approach

All based on 65 hours per month with hours over this paid at $185 / hr Capt and $120 / hr FO.

All of the above +3% per annum with 11 days off per month.

Seems like a good step forward to me, it may tempt me home at some stage.

Most guys seem to be on max hours so Captains should be able to achieve about $220k gross.

Can live within 15 to 20 mins of the airport.

10 min from push to take off

3 min to taxi in

30 min till you walk in your front door....ditch the uniform and hook up the boat.

5min from a boat ramp

No fishing or boat licence required...

AND it's not the Australian nanny state of the world.

What's not to like?

So that makes this a better deal than Air New Zealand if you're going to be stuck as an SO for 8 years on 85K a year - that's a looooooooong time. What am I missing?

A current Air New Zealand contract for a start

New contract more like 95k (if ratified). Then up to year 4 pay after 12 months, so another 10k. If they are flying as many hours as a J* FO, you can probably add another 15-20k. And better super, allowances etc. New hires will only be SO's for 5 years max at this stage, probably less if forecasts are correct. However, don't forget that money isn't everything when deciding on who you want to work for.

The good thing is things seem to be improving for everyone!

Depends what you want I guess, if I was 10 years younger I would be applying to Air NZ as it is still the best 'career' airline in New Zealand and most likely will always be the 'only' career airline there.

As someone approaching 40 though then this new Jetstar NZ contract probably offers me the best mix of pay / lifestyle available, if I want to return to NZ as a Captain and not sit in the back seat for 5 plus years. It would certainly take me a long time in Air NZ to be earning that money, have a Christchurch base and not have to do any nightstops. But hey that is the choice I made when I left NZ as a youngster to pursue my flying career. Still I wouldn't change it, best experience I have ever had. :)

DEC's are all gone as current FO's now meet the Command criteria.

You would have to start as an FO so if overseas based you have missed the boat!

The overnight allowances are terrible. And more than 65 hours is a lot of domestic flying if you don't get 4-5 Tasmans on your roster. Picking up an extra 50 hours a year would be the more likely prospect. DECs were only necessary to get the operation up and running. The preferred plan is to upgrade FOs. As it should be, I guess....

They do very few overnights.
They actually do 4 plus Tasmans a month
Tasman duties through Queenstown can be up to 9hrs flight time
They are doing lots of overtime.

To suggest they are doing on average 4 hrs overtime a month (50hrs) is way off the mark.

Jetstar Recruitment: Attention

Still advertising for DECs for NZ ops.

Didnt a Dragon Captain just join Jetstar NZ DEC???
B.

Don't panic guys, I was offered a DEC position a while back but turned it down. Was just saying this new contract would tempt me. I don't know if they will offer me a job or not but I do know of people joining shortly as DEC's. Does the new contact forbid this?? Or does it say that internal candidates will be used first when they are suitable, if it is the second then I would hazard a guess you will see more DEC's from time to time.

As for Air NZ,I recently applied (im Ozzy) and was advised that I'm not a Permanent Resident so could not be considered. Can anyone throw any light on that querk. I thought that we had a Trans Tasman agreement in place

J* have plenty of Kiwis flying for them in Oz. They're called cadets.

thats true, but it wasnt by design.