QF 777 rumours again doing the rounds
 

Total garbage I say. People are dreaming. 25 for an unidentified buyer? In your dreams.

Firstly, the Boeing production line is booked out for years ahead. If they did buy them, they would be paying top dollar, not what QF can afford. Boeing don't rate QF as an important customer any more, and would not do them any favours.

Secondly, how would management justify the years of describing that type as old technology while awarding massive bonuses for such a great decision not to buy them?

So to all those kidding themselves at work at the moment, what ever happened to your rumours of 787's painted in QF colours spotted on the production line? Or that you were getting them from EK?

Not a chance I say. It seems that everyone is desperate to latch on to a good rumour in order to feel better about the total basket case that working for this once great place has become.

You can't trust the Bus, so going Boeing it is.



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Agreed, no chance. They just cancelled 35 B787 orders. They are running outta cash fast.

Start a new jetstar franchise! That will be amaaaaaaaaaaaaazing!

What a load of dribble....

Come on Spag, he was a private pilot, he knows whats happening. It had nothing to do with the 300 G and Ts he had in the lounge and on board at all. Thank god for gaffa tape. Thank god the cabin crew had the sense to bring some on board.

The Don

Maybe with the QF/EK tie-up, alliance, marriage...there might be a way of directing EK airframes to it's poor Antipodean Cousin...

Let me guess, it landed, fixed itself (as new planes do these days), and took of again. No dramas.......move along.

....or out!

Ill wager out

Unidentified buyer? CX is about to identify itself methinks.

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The Kelpie

Pilots have been told that there are 15 B777's coming from EK. Ask the cleaners. They will know the true story.

Wet lease or damp lease from EK perhaps?

If there were 15 777s announced and to be crewed by QF drivers it would do more for engagement than 1000 parchments. I'll believe it when I see them parked at the terminal about to push back on it's first revenue service with QF pilots in the control seats.

If, and thats a big if, there may be B777 in QF livery, how does one prevent the dinosaurs from stuffing up the projected positive engagement coup such an announcement would create, by their demands for night credits, vintage OT requirements, 6 star crew rest facilities, own toilet, ceramic crockery, hot preflight snacks, ++++

I'd give AIPA less than 24hrs for their demands as to what QF LH pilots would demand to fly them. It would be just easier to leave them to EK and use the QF codeshare.... :ugh:

^ Exactly.

Some people clutch to the hope that RMS Qantas will do a full 180 and somehow survive unscathed. 777 is out of the question for us, otherwise we'd have it.

Remember this, we are 2 years in, on a 5 year plan. The data suggests the DeathStar will pick up where we've left off.

I'll dog paddle nude across Sydney harbour if Qantas gets 777s.

The right aircraft, the wrong management :8

CST Guy,

With the current surplus in mainline, people would be falling over each other to fly the supposed 777 airframes however I, like Keg, will believe it when I see it.

When it comes to conditions, AIPA are only trying to preserve what we have under relentless attack from company management. I guess you would advocate undercutting other pilots and giving up all overtime to get the gig.

Sadly, eventually people like you will prevail, mainline will become a thing of the past, you'll comfort yourselves by saying we deserved it and then bitch about what crap conditions you're on.

The conditions that mainline long haul enjoy are 'unique'.

You should not have the situation where an A330/747 long haul award FO enjoys a higher salary than a 737/767 Captain.

Equally, you should not have a scenario where A380/330/747 SOs earn more than 737 or 767 FOs.

Is an SO who flies 3-4 trips a month an enjoys 180k really sustainable? Especially when Jetstar, Tiger and Virgin have their Captains on a base salary around this figure?

If Qantas aircraft were not so expensive to crew, and that goes from the Pilot, down to the third generation Qantas bag chucker, to the A scale cabin manager on 130k, they would probably already have the 777.

I'm all for appropriate remuneration for technical skill and training, but paying the rates Qantas do for unskilled labour, along with the working conditions they enjoy is madness when compared to the competition.

Whilst it sucks for those that have been killing the pig for years and want to sustain it, it's akin to sticking your fingers in holes in a damn wall to stem the inevitable.

Domestically Qantas is pretty shielded and the domestic agreement is not so different from Jetstar if both Pilots fly hour for hour. It's pretty competitive and the Pilots seem to be generally happy with their lot (apart from the lack of progression).

Internationally, Qantas has a lot of pain to go through before/if it grows again.

GG
 

Do you mean A380/747 F/Os earning more than Captains? I have not heard of A330 F/Os earning more than captains... unless perhaps the 737 pilots are on min hours as the A330 F/Os are near max as is currently the case?

Apples with apples & all that... :ok: