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jarden 6th Jul 2012 06:12

If the SA govt gives them a big subsidy to get EK in the door, they will also bend the rules a bit re time slot for departure at or after curfew. They have been wanting a new airline to serve ADL for Soooo Long.

Ken Borough 6th Jul 2012 06:28

Jarden

The Feds control the curfews at all Australian airports where curfews apply while the slots are issued by another body in which the SA Govt has 0% interest (and probably influence.)

ramius315 6th Jul 2012 06:46

I love the fact that the pprune gurus question the planning abilities of the company that has proven itself to be the best in the business. I guess they could be wrong.

Ken, the text says curfew is 1330-2030z. Where is the reference to no departures to be planned after 2230 local? Also, The Curfew Act of 2000 states that provided taxi clearance is received prior to 2300 local the aircraft is allowed to takeoff. Exactly the same as Sydney, where both Domestic and Intl carriers have proven themselves to be very clever at manipulating.

Ken Borough 6th Jul 2012 07:41

Ramius,

If you don't know where to find the scheduling Guidelines I'm not about to tell you. Needless to say they are guidelines for schedulers. A wise and experienced schedule planner would be guided by them but only an amateur would schedule a 2245 departure when a curfew swings into action at 2300.

SOPS 6th Jul 2012 08:21

Im sure if it becomes a problem EK can just shift the sked a bit, it aint hard:ugh::ugh::ugh:

ramius315 6th Jul 2012 10:16

Wow Ken,

Do you spend your time in the playground running around saying "I know something you don't know, na na nana na" ??

I have operated, and continue to operate, flights with such schedules. As I said, there is nothing in the Adelaide Act that prevents a flight being planned to depart then, and I have done it many, many times (elsewhere.)

I guess you're my wise and experienced than EK though. And QF, BA, CX, SIA....

Crusty Demon 6th Jul 2012 19:23

Ken, look at your beloved QF managers scheduled departure times ex Sydney. How many airlines on top of QF also depart 10.15 or later?

Even more stupid are 2245 arrivals into Sydney. Departures have a taxy time. Arrivals have no such leeway. Then again, in your bonus driven mahogany office, what would you know about how the coal face practically deal with curfews? Perhaps some of the low paid coal face staff deserve more than you know. If you were outside of your comfy bed at this time, you may be surprised as to what actually happens. All within the rules.

:ugh:

But keep preaching the virtues of AJ. What more do we expect from you? Those ek muppets use old technology triplers. What would they know. You QF managers and believers are showing the world how to run a real airline.

unseen 6th Jul 2012 22:21


Originally Posted by ramius315 (Post 7280543)

Ken, the text says curfew is 1330-2030z. Where is the reference to no departures to be planned after 2230 ?

http://www.coordaus.com.au/Coordaus/W12guidelines.pdf

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ramius315 7th Jul 2012 02:34

Thanks Unseen. I thought it was a pretty simple question.

Cheers

ASY68 7th Jul 2012 15:41

Take note of the GMT time zone ;)


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