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ASY68 30th Apr 2012 12:26

John holland incident?
 
Hi guys,

Can anyone confirm or deny that there was an incident at JHAS MEL where 3 aircraft have been written off due to fire retardant foam?

Regards,

falconx 1st May 2012 04:33

i hear there keeping the cabins for crew training

dartman2 1st May 2012 05:24

What type...

A320skoda 1st May 2012 05:27

Not true...

ASY68 1st May 2012 06:05

Apparently 2x A320, 1x A330

londoneasyjetboi 1st May 2012 14:01

Confirmed
 
Wont mention airlines here, but yes, 2x a320 and one a330 caught in the AFFF discharge. 3 spare engines belonging to 2 carriers are written off, plus one still attached to the 330. Hope there insurance doesn't pay out due to their negligence and we can a new MRO in this country. LH Technik or SIAEC pls!

Capt Claret 1st May 2012 16:41

I'm curious. How does fire retardant foam cause airframes & engines to be written off?

A320skoda 1st May 2012 18:02

No........

1a sound asleep 1st May 2012 18:21

Aqueous film forming foams frequently contain hydrocarbon-based surfactant such as sodium alkyl sulfate, and fluorosurfactant — such as fluorotelomers, perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), or perfluorooctanesulfonic ACID (PFOS).

The Bungeyed Bandit 1st May 2012 22:32

Just saying NO and NOT TRUE would be considered a denial A320skoda but a bit more info would be appreciated.

clark y 1st May 2012 23:05

Aircraft not written off but lots of bits changed.

Connaught 2nd May 2012 01:36

seen it happen elsewhere and if you get in there and clean it all out fast enough it shouldn't be a problem, especially when you factor in the cost of the equipment you are talking about; besides if that was the case ie: writting equipent off if there is an activation of the fire suppression system, then why install it at all??? let it burn, end result is the same - equipement written off anyways and your not up for the cost to install an expensive fire suppression system

was old 737's there emergency foam canon switch was in very close proximity to the 3 phase switch, poor guy thought he was turning the power cart on:} (he found a fault with the system though, only 2 of the 4 canons activated)

ASY68 10th May 2012 06:01

To confirm, 2 Aircraft were rated at Cat 3C damage, while one was barely a scratch.

On another note, VHXFC was damaged today when its wing tip scraped above the cockpit window of a JQ A330 during a tow from JH to F12.

psycho joe 10th May 2012 08:49

Does that mean that both of Virgin's brand new A-330's that are yet to do a commercial flight, are grounded with damage?

That's not a phone call that I'd want to make. :uhoh:

Night Hawk 10th May 2012 08:59

Which JQ 330 was hit??? Plus how bad was it??

falconx 10th May 2012 09:15

Assessors and engineers consulted, in short a new wing

SRM 10th May 2012 09:53

Another JHAS quality product.

BPA 10th May 2012 10:02

A new wing:ugh: how fast were they going during the tow?

falconx 10th May 2012 10:12

Unfortunately they can't replace the damaged bit so it's a new wing, love to see what that's worth

blueloo 10th May 2012 11:08

We heard this sort of rumour with the Nancy Bird. that proved to be utter rubbish.

Anyway sounds like a bit of masking tape will fix it.


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