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We have been told by Flt Ops that the 747 never made money on LAX-JFK-LAX but the A330 did. A330 carries 13K cargo compared to 14K for 747 so the decision is typical of these guys.:hmm:

Cancelling the AKL-LAX means no 330s in LAX to run the JFK service. Therefore the only option is a 400. More spin than shane warne. Still better than cutting the route.

10 36 am Joyce says Bill Shorten and Penny Wong agrees with him and the Qantas changes..... other words job losses. Thanks Bill & Penny....:yuk:

video will be up ASAP It is my view Joyce leaked this to News LTD and Shorten...

One of the greatest efficiency gains that the company could make is already available but not used. Why don't they use the cross certification of flt crew on A330 and A320 aircraft - please discuss (and don't shoot the messenger - please). Airbus have been designing their cockpits around this for agaes.

By the way, if you got rid of Joyce you could employ aprox 62 heavy maintenance LAME's. Dont have to be a Rhodes scholar to work out who would be more efficient.

not 1 job offshored?

Can I then safely assume that the SYD-AKL service transferred from the 747 to the 737 will NOT be flown by Jitconnict? Seeing as though not ONE job will be offshored...

Joyce says new planes don't need as much maintenance therefore he has too many engineers. All the "experts" and reporters suddenly start squawking about new planes not needing maintenance. Whatever happened to researching a story? Is a journalism degree simply a course on how to regurgitate press releases?

I haven't seen any journalist join the dots yet. How many new jets does QF intl have? How many are they getting? F$&k all and none! They have a small ageing and shrinking fleet. I would have thought that as the fleet gets older, more maintenance is required following the AJ logic. Imagine if this were 1400 Holden workers or Heinz factory workers instead of "millionaire QANTAS employees". Pretty sure the government wouldn't roll over like a sick dog then.

"correcting", my first thought exactly.
I'll bet my left one that the 737 flying will be Jitconnict. :suspect:
Offshoring by stealth continues! :yuk:

http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=Q...n-AU&region=AU

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Why the hell would you put your money into 'Team Leprechaun' when you can invest in something that is real?

Management

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Ok you geniuses. A $50m profit. Pathetic. Yeah lets keep it big, keep engineers, maintenance bases that are not viable, don't expand Jetconnect, don't expand Jetstar.

Now lets watch it sink.

You clowns have absolutely no idea.

In the blurb it says the SYD-AKL will be done with a "Qantas 737-800" I guess that means Short haul and not Jetconnect.

Is it 11 747-400s to go in the next couple of years? How many crew over does that create? Also with the announced delay to the 787 to mid 2013 would also mean the delay of JQ 330s returning to mainline, exasperating the surplus. I wonder if VR is going to be on offer, I think not. mmmmm interesting times.:mad:

Just read Nassensteins & Joyces press releases to staff. Prior to today, absolutely no CR. Todays release, "We will try & keep C.R. to a minimum". They can't lie straight in bed!! :yuk::yuk::mad::mad:

S&B

Joyce complains about the high cost of doing business in Australia.
Joyce is one of the highest paid airline CEOs in the world.
I see the best place to start making cuts.

I would have thought a smarter use for the international 332s would be to use them to replace the 767 on HNL and open up new international routes (or restart old ones - PEK!) with a denser config (24/220). The existing domestic 332s can compete with Virgin by upgrading the J cabin.

It is mentioned in the spiel that Qantas cannot compete Aus-India due to Asian competitors with nearby hubs. How about restarting the only non-stops between Australia and BOM? Surely that is competitive to hours of transit in Asian hubs?

What has not been stated is who will be operating the A330's. Perhaps Jetstar will pick up some domestic A330 flying to Perth...

The floggings will continue until morale improves.

This is death by a thousand cuts.

Furthermore, how does Joyce propose to "work with" the unions involved when it appears from the engineers dispute that there was a lack of good faith on behalf of the company in November?

I read the post-announcement story on news.com.au and was astounded to see – what I suspect are – Qantas arranged "reader" comments posted not long afterwards. They are full of (imho quite irrational) pro-Joyce and anti-employee comments. I understand Qantas now has a social-network department and it seemed fairly clear to me they were hard at work, hiding behind the skirt of a company friendly news website; safe from prying IP address trackers.

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Furthermore, how does Joyce propose to "work with" the unions involved when it appears from the engineers dispute that there was a lack of good faith on behalf of the company in November?

Would not this be a breach of QF's SMS, the section on a 'Just Culture'? Perhaps the Screaming Skull and friends should issue AJ with an RCA?

Not to mention trolls on Prune.

The announcement in full - LIVE

For those who missed it.. plus a response from SP

Steve Purvinas from the Aircraft Engineers Union explains brilliantly the job efficiencies already achieved by Australian workers, but Mr Joyce is still not happy....

Great interview SP :D share this video before it gets lost... great points.

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Joyce deserves to lose his job: Xenophon

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QANTAS boss Alan Joyce seems hell-bent on turning the flying kangaroo into kangaroo stew, independent Senator Nick Xenophon says.

Mr Joyce is the only one at the airline who deserves to lose his job because his brinkmanship cost the airline $194 million and damaged its brand, the South Australia senator told reporters in Adelaide today.

Qantas will slash 500 jobs as part of a major revamp of the struggling airline after a massive fall in first-half profit.

In Adelaide, about 150 jobs will be lost as Qantas consolidates its catering into four centres in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth.

Senator Xenophon said grounding the airline to end a bitter dispute with unions last year was "completely avoidable" and Mr Joyce could have gone to Fair Work Australia.

"It shows extraordinary gall on the part of Alan Joyce that he unilaterally grounds the airline, costs it $194 million ... and he ends up with a $2 million bonus," the senator said in Adelaide.

He said the Qantas boss seemed hell-bent on outsourcing Qantas, the brand known as Australia's Flying Kangaroo.

"It seems that Alan Joyce's legacy will be to turn the flying kangaroo into kangaroo stew," Senator Xenophon said.

"The only person who deserves to lose their job is Alan Joyce who, through his unilateral brinkmanship, has ... damaged the Qantas brand."

The news comes as statistics showed South Australia's headline unemployment rate has fallen to 5.1 per cent with 400 more South Australians employed in January, compared to December.

Opposition employment spokesman David Pisoni said the job figures did not take into account the recent job cuts announced by Qantas, the banks and Holden.