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Cookie7 12th Feb 2012 21:49

A source called into the 3AW morning show suggesting confidentiality clauses were to be signed by upper senior management, jobs in Melbourne to go, FRA to go and possible Malaysian tie-up.

Either that's someone throwing a spanner in the works, or something that the board should surely indicate to shareholders.

Also, I would have thought, should there be an imminent major announcement, surely there should be a trading halt? - This is not my area of expertise so I'm sure someone can shed light on this issue.

whatever6719 12th Feb 2012 22:45

What the...Dont you mean Right wing wank award. I think Murdoch and his ilk are about as left leaning as Margaret Thatcher

hotnhigh 12th Feb 2012 23:07

It's official, the man has gone troppo.
Grounding 'positive' for Qantas brand: Joyce

hotnhigh 12th Feb 2012 23:14

And for an illustration of the man's thoughts.......Check out the section on "Joyce gems."
Management Today


"If you use non-constructive behaviour, are a bully and turn people off, then it's not a great place to work."
What a leader!

OneDotLow 12th Feb 2012 23:24


Grounding 'positive' for Qantas brand: Joyce
BIG announcement : Groundings and lockouts on the 4th Saturday or EVERY month.

"We are going to leverage our knowledge and experience in grounding the airline each and every month and it will be a fantastic win for our customers and our employees!":ok:

blow.n.gasket 12th Feb 2012 23:27

Evidence enough now to explain why so many senior exec's started buying up big on Qantas stock just recently!
Let me guess, their stock buying spree will just happen to have occured outside any blackout period associated with the upcoming announcement that can be tied to insider trading!:}

havick 12th Feb 2012 23:37


Evidence enough now to explain why so many senior exec's started buying up big on Qantas stock just recently!
Wouldn't ASIC be interested in said parties that financially benefit from insider trading?

Jethro Gibbs 13th Feb 2012 00:09

Bill Shorten on radio this morning he already knows jobs are going he is just waiting for someone else to announce it so he does not look so bad.

Teal 13th Feb 2012 00:36

Not positive at all if the newspaper reader response to a poll on the issue is indicative:

26% 'Yes' (positive for the brand)
74% 'No' (not positive for the brand)

Over 4,700 votes so far (The Age & SMH newspapers).

dr dre 13th Feb 2012 00:42


Bill Shorten on radio this morning he already knows jobs are going he is just waiting for someone else to announce it so he does not look so bad.
I think the numbers, mentioned somewhere else on this thread include:

180 pilots (most seem to have taken LWOP though)
500ish cc, should be taken care of with VR
200ish engineers
50? Mel operational staff
Frankurt and NY staff if those ports are cut
Maybe some LHR, HKG and BKK staff with the drawdown in services
The usual 2 year middle management cull as well perhaps?

Mr Leslie Chow 13th Feb 2012 00:57

The AIM article does not mention Joyces' failure at Lingus nor Ansett, that part is gleamed over, you gotta love spin......

Once again GT puts his head well and truly above the pit - can someone explain to this **** what the difference is between a co-pilot and a F/O. Can anyone guess who holds the number one membership to the AJ fan club :yuk:

Also it's funny how he quotes these 'mantras' but yet has gone against all of them in the last two years.

Walk the walk..... :ugh:

frigatebird 13th Feb 2012 01:36

Hey.., Fair Go....


It's official, the man has gone troppo.

Even those of us who worked most of our lives north of abeam Rocky (or Carnarvon) are not THAT crazy...

teresa green 13th Feb 2012 04:08

Perhaps this is a part of the "Malaysian Solution". Little Al is prepared to take 2,000 Malaysian CC for 2,000 Aussie jobs. Think of the savings.

gobbledock 13th Feb 2012 11:10

The fact that the little four foot tall two legged steaming pile of monkey crap has fornicated once again with Uncle Ruperts newspaper and regurgitated a mix of bile, carrot chunks and 'heavy speech about unions and their lack of understanding the real business world' is a warm up for the massive pineapple he is about to unleash on staff once again. He is merely stretching staffs sphincters on preparation.

Now is once again the opportune time for all staff, families, supporters and Australians to stand up against the greedy hypocritical actions of this mini fuhrer and fight him and his executive footstools onto oblivion. If you aren't staff then vote with your feet. If you are staff then you are perceived by him and his band of minions to be the enemy and a liability. So you have two choices you either bend over and grab your ankles or you align yourself with the person next to you and fight tooth and nail to get rid of the disconnected management who are themselves living in cloud cuckoo land.
Everybody needs to fight smart, but if it is a dirty fight this little toad wants then let's make his life as unpleasant and unpalatable as humanly possible.

1a sound asleep 13th Feb 2012 11:32


So you have two choices you either bend over and grab your ankles or you align yourself with the person next to you and fight tooth and nail to get rid of the disconnected management who are themselves living in cloud cuckoo land.
I agree with you but I am almost lost in thought devising a strategy that will work. I have seen so many lies, devious filthy manipulation of the players by the foul stinking greedy and corrupt hierarchy. Reality is the people running/driving Qantas have no care for Qantas. Their agenda is short term profiteering at any cost

I have pretty much come to the conclusion that the best way would be get the Government reconnected with Qantas and buy back 51%. I did some quick calculations and based on assets Qantas is a bargain buy for the Government right now. I would be lobbying the Government to reinvest in Australia's future

NewPiper 13th Feb 2012 11:55

Hey 1a,

Where do you reckon the 51% of 2.2 billion shares are gonna come from at your calculated 'bargain price'?

The top 20 shareholders own 80% of stock and you are dreaming if you think they will sell out to Gillard at a bargain price. It would have to be at least double todays closing price before those investors even think about it.

What you said is a pipedream. Forget about and keep looking for a new job if you fly for QF.

NP

gobbledock 13th Feb 2012 13:02

Well well, a Troll returns! Welcome back Poo Piper. Did the Roo's PR machine unleash you for a little more deflection? An all too familiar tactic when the heat gets turned up against management.
Or perhaps you always fancied yourself in a QF uniform but never cut the grade, hence your poking and prodding little digs at QF pilots who may be in the firing line of Commandant Alan?

1a sound asleep 13th Feb 2012 13:07

NP

I said for the Government to reinvest. Of course they are not going to but 51% overnight. But if the Government announced this you and all your management cronies would be dropping your shares as fast as you could. Think about it.

For a desolate and remote country like Australia the national Airline should be majority owned by the Government. Selling it all off was a mistake

Stalins ugly Brother 13th Feb 2012 14:03

PP,


Where do you reckon the 51% of 2.2 billion shares are gonna come from at your calculated 'bargain price'?
The way this management are going 51% of 2.2 billion shares worth zero will be a bargain for any government.

Alan Joyce and another big announcements, What a Joke! QF has become like watching a beached whale die of a slow and painful death, FFS put it out of it's misery! :ugh:

TIMA9X 13th Feb 2012 14:29

Poll runs against the spin from Qantas
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-S...ding.JPG?gl=US

Grounding 'positive' for Qantas brand: Joyce

This morning, after the News Ltd tripe was published, AJ, OW & Co must have felt pretty chuffed until the SMH & the Age published this story above.... just read the comments......

PS, this story was the most read all day online in the Age, the SMH & the Brisbane Times....

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O...2-12.JPG?gl=US

Whilst the market was up, the Qantas share price stayed the same... all that positive stuff written in the Australian didn't seem to help much at the end of the day.... sort of all got lost me thinks.. :uhoh:

Now this story for today




Qantas staff fear cuts as kangaroo route struggles



QANTAS staff fear that job cuts will be announced on Thursday when the airline releases its half-year profit and updates investors on a strategic review of its loss-making premium international operations.
The expectations of reductions to its 34,000-strong workforce came as Workplace Minister Bill Shorten called for Qantas to focus on the longer term, telling Fairfax Radio Network yesterday that ''if you cut too much you then lose skills that are never coming back''.
Qantas has had a strategic review of its international operations under way since January last year, which includes the possibility of it launching an ultra-premium carrier in south-east Asia.


The airline has been struggling to stem losses on the so-called ''kangaroo route'' to Europe because of increased competition from other carriers and high fuel costs. It has led to renewed speculation that Qantas might shelve flights to Frankfurt in Germany, leaving London as its sole gateway in Europe.
The Australian and International Pilots Association vice-president, Richard Woodward, said staff feared the airline would announce the shedding of jobs on Thursday, as part of reductions to its long-haul network.
About 180 Qantas pilots had taken up the company's offer of leave without pay to work for Jetstar and rivals including Emirates and Qatar Airways over the past six months, Mr Woodward said.
The federal president of the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association, Paul Cousins, said yesterday that Qantas' engineering division was the most exposed to the company shedding jobs.
Qantas announced 1000 job cuts - mainly affecting pilots, cabin crew and engineers - in August when it unveiled its five-year strategy for turning around the international operations.
The airline yesterday declined to comment on the speculation but ruled out shifting jobs overseas.
''There is always a lot of rumour and speculation about Qantas and we are not going to respond to every single rumour, but any suggestion that Qantas is offshoring jobs is totally incorrect,'' a spokesman said.
As Qantas grapples with turning around its long-haul operations, Macquarie Equities analysts have suggested that Emirates could be an attractive partner for the airline on the route between Australia and Europe. To ease its exposure to Europe, Qantas has already announced that it will reduce flights on the route to Europe from five a day to three from April

Read more: Qantas staff fear cuts as kangaroo route struggles


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