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jibba_jabba 7th Nov 2011 22:07

REX Resignations - pt 2
 
Seems like a particular person, aptly named after a bad fast food item, infiltrated a decent thread and managed to distract others from the bad management issues at Regional Express.

This thread is to be a continuation of this topic, for the simple fact that more are leaving and it give others around the Rex network an idea of whats going on in other ports as well.

I believe that another two or so pilots resigned the other day. Once to Alliance and the other to Cobham. Good for them! Is the total approx 18 in 1.5 months?

Any other developments of late, so we may see how this is affecting Rex?
  • MEL/ADL pilots suddenly being called for sydney duties?
  • Country ports doing more overnights?
  • Rex Plans for Willie town run?
  • The hiring of GA pilots again!?
And Moderators, can you simply just 'ban a distruptive person' that is obviously not contributing to the thread and purposefully distracting it, rather than close a thread down.. Cheers.

chickoroll 7th Nov 2011 23:02

Great all we need is another REX thread. I bet even the MOD'S are sick of seeing REX threads.

travelator 7th Nov 2011 23:21

Good point chicko, this will take up valuable bandwidth that could be better served for a I hate QANTAS/Jetstar thread. :hmm:

KRUSTY 34 7th Nov 2011 23:58

Thanks jibba jabba.

May I suggest guys that we all refuse to acknowledge chicko'. My guess he is a management stooge/troll, and was successful in his endeavors last time around.

chickoroll 8th Nov 2011 02:15

So how about the latest resignations at REX I can only wonder how much longer they can sustain losing qualified pilots at this current rate. Does anyone have suggestions on what REX can do?

jibba_jabba 8th Nov 2011 02:52

Nice try unwanted chicko-roll.

Mods keep an eye on Chickoroll's posts please. Its becoming circular and quite obviously disruptive! just like Rex managment - round in circles with no real answers.

What can they do Chickoroll!?, Stop foiling this thread and leave. That was answered quite thoroughly on the last thread so if you want to know go read that one, you should be familiar with the last TROLL effort you did!

chickoroll 8th Nov 2011 03:54

Ha circular I like that just like these REX threads that you and a certain someone keep starting. Seriously you two are boring the test of us with them why don't you exchange phone numbers and call each other about it. Come up with a few fresh ideas guys really REX own demise is fast coming really boring!

my oleo is extended 8th Nov 2011 05:01

Dont chicoroll's have a pasty exterior and on the inside they are full of lips and ar#seholes???

Tidbinbilla 8th Nov 2011 05:06

Righto! You lot play nice now.

This is a valid topic, and any attempts to derail it by personal sledging or trollish behaviour will see the perpetrators banned.

Keep that in mind, eh? ;)

knightflyer 8th Nov 2011 05:07

Nice try Krusty, just looks like some people can't resist the bait being trolled around. :ugh:

Wally Mk2 8th Nov 2011 06:08

If this thread gets locked then that would be a record of 8 locked threads on the one page....just amazing !:-)

Now to the subject at hand.
I recall many years ago Kendall's always had pilots leave simply to go further up the ladder, is this not partly the same reason for the continuation of pilots leaving? After all flying regional now is no big deal & would be looked upon as just a stepping stone by a lot of pilots especially if the T&C's where crap which seems to be a trait with Pelair.


Wmk2

layingback 8th Nov 2011 06:27

I can't see how REX is so short of pilots. I now know of six pilots that have their CV in with REX and noooooooo word back from them. 3500 hours is the lowest of these guys.
Beats me what they are looking for, but these guys won't be on the market for long.

PPRuNe Towers 8th Nov 2011 08:37

Simply staggering that so many of you aren't ever able to keep your hands away from the keyboard.

Total troll bait and I'm changing tack - the mods will thread ban those responding to being so ineptly and childishly manipulated. There's something to admire in high quality windups by a knowledgable troll but this is pre school level and those falling for it are the bandwidth wasters.

Rob

jibba_jabba 8th Nov 2011 08:54


This is a valid topic, and any attempts to derail it by personal sledging or trollish behaviour will see the perpetrators banned.
Keep that in mind, eh?
Thanks PPRuNe Towers & Tidbinbilla

.... Yes Rex has always had that level of "stepping stone" attitude, as mentioned in the last thread that CH did reveal that so long as they got three years out of you all good, but that is an obviously short sighted view.

I admit, some guys have that gleem of jets in their eyes, but most leaving dont. Its because of the frustration and lack of ability to not change the mangement attitude, all the while seeing wages and general T&C go backwards.
If you are going to work hard or for a hard boss, you deserve $$$$$$$ or lifestyle or a bit of both! Like I have always said, the revealing fact is the attrition rate doesnt lie!

Any news on:
cancelling flights/delaying flights?
- I heard that they are delaying flights by hours to get guys in off reserve from ADL etc so they dont have to pay the causual day payment! Sh*t, wont have too many customers wanting to come fly rex thats for sure!

chickoroll 8th Nov 2011 10:01

Dont chicoroll's have a pasty exterior and on the inside they are full of lips and ar
 
I think you are refering to hot dogs OLEO! now lets get back on topic.

What are REX plans? surley they can't rely on cadets to save them that will take at least 2 years.

penetrator 11th Nov 2011 06:49

Jibba jabba: What you hear is correct & as i said in the old thread, seems the operating policy is starting to reverse, it was; (safety, pax comfort, schedule, economy) now it appears to be(safety, pax comfort, economy, schedule), all of managements doing. What will the order be next? Rosters are now turning to crap because of how many reserves people are getting, up to 3/4 of their roster on reserve, this then leaves sectors uncrewed so they can have more flexibility to shift people around interstate. Crewing are resorting to underhanded tactics calling people outside of work-reserve periods in the persons own time to give them duties for the coming days & telling people they must accept the duty because they were contacted even though it is out of scope of the eba, this is to try & limit the delays & get the flights crewed due to so many reserve days being rostered. Surely for the past three or so years they should have seen the lack of qualified people for upgrades & moved to top up this resource in between cadet courses. This matter has been an offence of strict liability from management & shareholders should be asking questions to the board about this. It is going downhill fast in my opinion & will only get worse unfortunately, morale in the ranks is taking a big hit also. I think its time to start looking elsewhere. It really is all take & no give from the company!!! They have made the bed they can now lay in it.

apache 11th Nov 2011 07:51

A good point has been raised here by Penetrator. Maybe the REXPC should move top put a maximum of say 10% pilots on call at any one time?
most decent companies have some sort of restriction on the amount of pilots on call at any one time...most DECENT companies!

penetrator 12th Nov 2011 00:04

Apache it would be good if the rexpc could get that to happen but I think the company would squash it straight away! I have heard that there is another mix of around 10 pilots waiting for a start dates with other carriers & some ready for retirement. The CHECK & training department may also be going to take a bigger hit. Rex crews are being utilized on the stack of pel-air charters, even having these flights rostered, because pel-air dont have enough crew either. There was up to 10 sectors in Sydney on thursday uncrewed, Krusty34 would be able to give a better appreciation of this. Topping this off Rex have/are starting a Newcastle run which will probably end up like the Brisbane episode of 4 years ago. To say Rex will not have an uncontrollable haemorrhaging on the way would be living in a dream world. They are as we speak scrambling to get some direct entry & upgradable people into the system.

The lifestyle that a regional pilot used to have is changing, typically with Rex. With so much more interstate flying & up to 4 days away at a time you would have to ask yourself, if I am living the domestic lifestyle I might as well get paid like a domestic pilot & fly the equipment of a domestic pilot.

Stiff Under Carriage 12th Nov 2011 08:00

Penetrator.


Rosters are now turning to crap because of how many reserves people are getting, up to 3/4 of their roster on reserve
This is false! And not true. Provide evidence or stop exaggerating.



calling people outside of work-reserve periods in the persons own time to give them duties for the coming days & telling people they must accept the duty because they were contacted
They are entitled to call you. You decide whether to answer or not. They can not force the duty on you unless its outside 14 days. You CAN tell them to call me back inside my reserve period and notify me then. But bear in mind your duty might get worse as things happen throughout day. If you answer your phone, you cannot complain about it. Everyone knows crewings number!


I have heard that there is another mix of around 10 pilots waiting for a start dates with other carriers
My bolding. Be careful of what you hear, rumor or fact! Can assure you most likely rumor.

Nulli Secundus 12th Nov 2011 09:44

Rex would be impressed
 
"This is false! And not true. ........."

Stiff Under Carriage, Rex the Moose Mossop would have been most impressed :D


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