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ejectx3 4th Nov 2011 00:33

Thanks a lot. I was expecting you to direct me to this link

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Senator+Douglas+Niven+cameron

teresa green 4th Nov 2011 00:33

Cameron was a Merchant seaman, a officer I believe. Who ever he is, I would like to buy him a slab. :D

ejectx3 4th Nov 2011 00:36

Agreed. What a champ

Cookie7 4th Nov 2011 00:37

Nope, I'm not a smart arse, like those :ok:

Final comment from Sen Cameron (to AJ) before ABC24 changed over, "you're a rogue employer!".

cvrurass 4th Nov 2011 00:39

i am tired of the media defending a company that wants to use cheaper labor. what ever happened to yu get what you pay for?

MACH082 4th Nov 2011 00:40

You're a rouge employer hahahahaha

Gold!

ejectx3 4th Nov 2011 00:44

It was qantas' "intention" to never eat into qf flying with Jetstar. Intentions mean nothing.

cvrurass 4th Nov 2011 00:45

Round One Goes to Senators
 
our senators did a fine job in the first round. keepup the good work. looking forward to the return visit for AJ.

Tankengine 4th Nov 2011 00:52

Looks like the next Senate election may get my first ever Labor candidate vote!

Abbott's dithering this week will hurt him.:E

adsyj 4th Nov 2011 00:52

Serious question.

Apart from letting everyone see what an inept operator Alan Joyce is does the inquiry have any teeth. In other words what happens at the end of it all.

nitpicker330 4th Nov 2011 00:58

Good watching Joyce squirm :ok:

tmadam 4th Nov 2011 00:59

Quote of the day
 
Brown to Joyce, re grounding vs lockout: "You've had a big stick behind your back, and you haven't shown it to anybody."

teresa green 4th Nov 2011 01:00

The next thing that will happen is the Journo's will smell blood, and go after him, and possibly the board. If they hound him, he could crack and go, its all in the lap of the Gods now, he was a shattered man this morning, and Cameron has not finished with him yet nor Xenophon. But who was the bloke putting out the dorothy dixers, the nice little questions? A stooge?

GAFA 4th Nov 2011 01:01

I noticed AJ said that theory's of Jetstar replacing Qantas domestic were not true. Well what about Jetstar replacing Qantas to the Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast? And I'm sure there are other routes that have been replaced.

ejectx3 4th Nov 2011 01:11

I like the tone of questioning that suggests the senate doesn't believe Joyce has no intention of shrinking mainline and hopefully the need to enforce that

adsyj 4th Nov 2011 01:12

Yeah I did wonder why that bloke sent down a handful of dollies. He didn't seem to have any grasp of the situation at all.

ejectx3 4th Nov 2011 01:14

It was mentioned a pilot rang a senator during the hearing to describe being alarmed mid flight re the grounding. How do we ring them mid enquiry? I'd love to coach with a few questions on the fly.often they are on the right track but need prompting to deliver the knockout question.

gobbledock 4th Nov 2011 01:19

This little piggy went to the chairmans lounge....
 

It was qantas' "intention" to never eat into qf flying with Jetstar. Intentions mean nothing.
The art of Deflection 101 !! 'Intention' and 'intent' are phrases very popular amongst bureaucracies, executive managers and general bull**** artists.
E.G, CASA will speak of a regulation and say 'the intent' of the reg. In other words they won't be specific with what is required of you to meet the reg, and when you implement a process based on your understanding of the reg which absolutely is not clear in the first place, they can still ping you by saying you are wrong because 'that is not the intent of the reg' according to them. It is merely word obsfucating bull**** designed to cover the ass of the big player and burn the little people to the ground in an unwinable situation.

NOTE TO ALL POLITICIANS !!
To all the spineless, weak, lying, trough dwelling parasite Pollies - Please observe the actions of messrs Brown, Cameron, Xenophon, Heffernan, even Katter.
These politicians act to the best of their ability to seek the best interest of their constituents first. They understand what they are paid to do, represent the people and not bend over and grab their ankles for influential business leaders and other power brokers.

Top work, you get my vote :D

Fruet Mich 4th Nov 2011 01:28

In the mean time Joyce and Qantas continue to give all of Qantas international profitable flying to Jetstar. No wonder Qantas international are not making a profit, because all the profitable routes are being gifted to Jetstar. This would also explain the continual decrease in market share for Qantas and increase for Jetstar. Net result, a continual decline in company market share because customers get pissed off with Jetstar and move to a quality carrier who are still doing the routes that Qantas used to.

I love how they recently took the Boeing 747 (with high load factors) off the Auckland-LAX route to replace it with a medium haul aircraft that is not suited to that run. The loads now are dismal. Manipultion at its greatest!! Next year, they will claim that Qantas are not making money on the route and el presto, Jetstar takes it over!

He has the gift of the gab this little Irishman. They want to fix the Qantas business? Then give the profitable routes you gifted to Jetstar back to Qantas would be a start. I see the SYD-ZQN flying is shortly going to Jetstar. Again more profitable Qantas international flying going to Jetstar. No wonder Qantas international find it hard to make a profit.:ugh:

breakfastburrito 4th Nov 2011 01:40

Air Navigation and Civil Aviation Amendment (Aircraft Crew) Bill 2011; Qantas Sale Amendment (Still Call Australia Home) Bill 2011

November 4, 2011 - Part 1
As the Kelpie would say, more to follow...



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