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WorthWhat 30th Oct 2011 22:54

Qantas Ripe for Takeover
 
Sinking share price leaves carrier ripe for a takeover

About $20 million a day. This is the price that Alan Joyce (was) willing to strip from Qantas and its shareholders to beat the unions into submission....

Joyce and the Qantas board decided to make industrial relations the weapon to cut costs and maintain margins and yields. In doing so they have driven the share price into the ground, making it a sitting duck for a takeover.

Sinking share price leaves carrier ripe for a takeover - National News - National - General - Newcastle Herald

1a sound asleep 30th Oct 2011 23:02

Order Estimate
Security QANTAS AIRWAYS FPO
Order Style Default Expiry
Quantity 1000000
Indicative Price $1.000
SubTotal $1000000.000
Brokerage & Costs Incl GST $1199.000
Stamp Duty $0.000
Indicative Total $1001199.000

Gingerbread 30th Oct 2011 23:14

Business Spectator agrees Watty.

Deal-starved private equity operators and investment banks might think this morning about putting Qantas Airways high on their agenda. If, after 21 days of negotiations and a possible arbitration hearing, Qantas can’t obtain a deal with its workforce that enables it to be competitive then maybe it's time for another group to operate the airline.

After all, Qantas directors in 2007 recommended a $5.60 bid from a private equity group, but it was narrowly rejected by shareholders. The bid was highly leveraged and the subsequent global financial crisis might have seen a private equity-owned Qantas go under. But the shares closed on Friday at $1.54, 62 per cent down from the offer price in 2007.

1a sound asleep 30th Oct 2011 23:17

There goes that plan

Share price up over 2% this morning and its been open 15 minutes :sad::mad:

Howard Hughes 30th Oct 2011 23:20

VBA up 6.94% :ok:

QAN now up 5.94% :eek:

The The 30th Oct 2011 23:29

QAN up 5.5% - the start of a play in motion?

mcgrath50 30th Oct 2011 23:29

Everyones buying just before the private equity bid hits!

unionist1974 31st Oct 2011 01:08

Or they see that AJ has turned the corner , no PIA for a while .

1a sound asleep 31st Oct 2011 02:21

1.65 +0.11‎ (6.80%‎) 31 Oct 12:59pm AEST

Seems somebody loves Alan Joyce:confused:

stillalbatross 31st Oct 2011 02:32

Any private equity firms are going to go in with high debt and hack it to bits to get those debt levels down. Anyone on here working for Qantas who thinks a takeover would be good for employees, should maybe look at the history of private equity takeovers.

Unless in an airline environment they are linked with an employee buyout which in itself is also mired in problems.

dreamjob 31st Oct 2011 02:42

I don't think this is due to a takeover bid.

People are buying because they know there will be no more disruptions and the there's little the unions can do from this point on.

So in their minds the share price can only go up even though the company is dead. :sad:

Howard Hughes 31st Oct 2011 02:47

Slipped back slightly to +3.88%, still a lot more buyers than sellers though!

blueloo 31st Oct 2011 11:12


People are buying because they know there will be no more disruptions and the there's little the unions can do from this point on.

Ha Ha Ha


Are you really so naive to believe this?

dreamjob 31st Oct 2011 11:54

With respect to PIA, according to FWA, I thought that was the case?

QF94 31st Oct 2011 12:10

At the current share price, the value of the company is less than their cash reserves of $3.5billion.

Watch out for the syndicate of Geoff Dixon and John Singleton. They're Australian, they have the money and can buy the company, delist it and then break it apart as they wish. FWA or no FWA. Government or no government. Unions or no unions.

The sale would have gone ahead in 2007 if not for a late submission by a US basd investment mogul.

The game isn't over yet. This is the first 1/4.

DutchRoll 31st Oct 2011 23:01

I have a bridge I'd like to sell you, NewPiper.

Regularly painted, accompanied by profitable bridge-climbing business. I will offer it to you exclusively for a bargain basement price......

airtags 31st Oct 2011 23:18

Equities have much better targets than Q at the moment - however probability rises slightly with lowering of interest rates, but..........the risk matrix associated with Q makes a number of otherwise potentials happy to adopt the "we'll wait on the sideline bench" approach.

The 5 major shareholders are staying in only because they are well past point of safe return. Way too early in the game for a serious run.

AT

1a sound asleep 31st Oct 2011 23:27


The 5 major shareholders are staying in only because they are well past point of safe return.
80% of shareholders wont sell below $3 unless the share price drops to below about 50 cents. So its a mute point

Happy Gilmore 1st Nov 2011 00:34

Troll in the House !!

schlong hauler 1st Nov 2011 00:52

Wrong Newpiper. The action over the weekend has only highlighted what the sale act intent was legislated to protect. Australia's economic and strategic interests. You can't have a rogue board in charge of an entity such as the national flag carrier enforcing their will in the guise of market forces without due regard for the national interests. Disrupting the mining, tourism and general business sectors is one thing but to interrupt the functioning of the economy with reckless abandon for days is not in the national interests. I am damn sure that the people at the Dept. of Defense are reassessing some of their own strategic contingency plans in light of this. Imagine if there had been a national or international emergency of grave proportions without the necessary assets available at short notice? i know emergency powers could be invoked but the overall reliance on Qantas' capability will now be questioned. The airline has always been an integral part of Australia's strategic capability. Virgin is not up to that task. How many engineers, pilots and operational back ground staff have had previous and or current military careers including current reservists. Read some history. There are reasons far beyond a share price for how and why Qantas and its strategic capability must be protected.


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