Large Qantas Airbus order
 

On the UK news it is reported that Qantas have ordered a slew of the revamped A320s to expand their 'short haul operations in Asia'.

The Order The Reality
 

The order is for 110 A320 NEOs(New Engine Option)Very few will be for mainline.... if any. Most will be for all the Jeststar franchise scattered thru' Asia

And don't forget the most important part....funded by mainline.

Let the gamble begin with nothing but 2 and 3's in hand.

Any govt that backs this lot must be laughing at how easy Australia hands over the bucks pretending they know what they are doing and hoping that $$$ will get them over the line.

Ahhh soooo...... Rike ramb to the slaughter.....sirry iriots!!!!

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None are for mainline.
A small number will be for 'Far-Q' and the rest to expand various Jetstar operations and replace older aircraft.

Qantas and Airbus sign huge A320 order | Australian Aviation Magazine
11 for mainline....How many mainline fleet to be traded in ??

Not 110 NEOs according to the Australian Aviation link. It says 32 current A320s and 78 NEOs.

It also says the 11 "mainline" jets are for the new premium startup, not the current mainline, so no trade-ins required.

Why do the J* A320 fleet need renewing????

They're only a few years old. Certainly nowhere near the age of QF 767s or 737-400s that make up the bulk of the domestic operation.

How can these geniuses justify an extravagant expense to keep the blue singlet and thongs brigade happy, while the premium customers are flying around in 20 year old ****boxes?

And don't tell me anything about yield management crap or returning the cost of capital blah blah blah....,,,

The QF branded domestic operation posted the biggest profit of any segment of the company, that includes J* and the frequent flyer scheme. Won't be for long though if it continues to be treated with contempt and receive no funding.

Once the transformation of LH is complete, the smoke and mirrors will commence with the ongoing viability of SH. Too expensive; can't compete; no yield; etc etc. The poorest performing part of the "Group".

Domestic operation will then be told to change or face oblivion. The Master Plan will then be complete.

Slaps on the back all round at HQ; massive bonuses paid at the elite level, and the entire workforce on "much more competitive" wages.

As sure as the sun rises tomorrow!!

How is this investing in Qantas. Not one of those 110 aircraft will have a kangaroo on the tail.
Paid for by Qantas, and no doubt leased through the company Geoff Dixon has interests in.
So if this all goes pair shaped, Alan and Geoff and quite a few other toxic management staff will have had their pockets lined and will be able to walk away happy knowing that they no longer have to deal with the decisions they made.

Qantas will then be left to dig themselves out of a hole that they didn't need to be in.

At the end of the day it is just rich people gambling with money that is not theirs.

Why do they need to replace almost new A320's?

That is a very good question that would be worth some digging into the details. There must be an answer somewhere.

Maybe most of them are for growth, and the rest to replace leased aircraft...like the article said! :rolleyes:

Remember that their main competitor in the Asia Pacific region has also placed a large order for A320 NEOs which would give them an operating cost advantage, so it was better to go ahead and maintain the status quo. As it is most LCCs get rid of their aircraft once they reach 7-10 years old, usually because they get pretty thrashed.

And as for "funded by mainline", by the same logic JQ helps to fund new aircraft in the QF fleet so everybody wins at the end of the day.

Can you tell me what aircraft JQ have helped fund QF?.. That's bullish$t

another crack smoker...

Who is picking up the very considerable tab for administering such an order? Not Jetstar I suppose.

You are right it won't be Jetstar, they didn't place the order.
It would be safe to assume that as the order was placed by the QANTAS group, The QANTAS group will be paying the bills.

There is no such thing as the Qantas group. There is Qantas Airways Pty Ltd and it's subsidiaries.

Only when it comes to registering companies Silverado.

Realistically, however, the QANTAS group is, in order of profit :)

1. QANTAS Frequent Flyer
2. QANTAS Domestic ( Australian Airlines and TAA )
3. Jetstar
4. Eastern
5. Sun state
6. Jetstar Asia
7. Jetstar Pacific
8. Qantas international... The only true legacy part of the airline.

And Far-Q.... Soon....

Considering the only original QF carrier I.e. International, is 1/9 of the QANTAS group, I think you may be stretching the truth somewhat.

Realistically ....

How much money do you think FF would make if there were no QF International? What about if there were no Jetstar in all its various forms, would that make any difference to FF's profit?

How much do international connecting pax to domestic sectors contribute to QF Domestic's profitability?

Don't start to believe the bull$hit being used to justify management's plans.