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sixtiesrelic 12th Aug 2011 23:58

Joe, When you've been round longer you'll note that CASA, the media and many other 'informed instrumentalities' are pretty much like some scrawny, midget, cowardly ,mongrel dogs that wait till the victim's being held down and THEN going in for their bite.
Perhaps Tiger was not right up to speed, but you can be sure they weren't as bad as made out when you look at the industry. The other airlines make the odd blunder but every time Tiger did something, the howling started. Poor old Qantas gets bashed all the time too along a different vein.
CASA is out there making a big show for the public to prove how they're watching. They’re the biggest cowardly curs of the lot.
Don’t believe me? Check out the operators they’ve hounded out of business over the years you’ve been flying.
It's the same with all the bulldust over asbestos. Just about every baby boomer and older played with fibro when they were kids. Chucked it in fires, made Frisbees and toys from it, helped fathers scrub the black mould off the fibro roof with a wire brush when the family could afford to paint it.
Hell we’re not dead… somehow cheated it.
Look up the net and you'll find that twenty eight times more people die from asbestos than from tobacco.
Where’s the dust suits and masks, the inspectors , the licence givers, the instructors for the courses for tobacco. The Government is going along with the hoo-har because they are being seen to do something… Collect the taxes and drop the unemployment numbers.
Don’t be one of the ‘well informed’ about Tiger. And for the record, I won’t fly on Tiger, for my own, perhaps ill judged and discriminatory reasons.

mannej 13th Aug 2011 01:15

To the OP, I believe that you are misguided some what. I do agree that the Exit Row allocation is not always 100% appropriate.

However, is it Garuda policy to have a crew member on that seat during take off and landing? Musn't be as it never happened the last time I was on there. They had 3 guys pissed beyond belief who then left their seats for other seats.

It also does not take into account any thing that occurs in between those two flight phases. So not always ideal. As for the Red Roo (something going to happen etc etc), all people sitting in those rows must be checked off before they are allowed to board. Frequent Flyers may not like it, but I prefer it that way.

NIK320 13th Aug 2011 01:27

JQ has gone down the same line.
Exit rows can only be checked in by airport staff.

Tiger01 13th Aug 2011 02:07


Don't Virgin refuse to put their paxing Pilots in emergency exit rows?
Since Borghetti started there have been changes to the staff and Duty travel seating policy. One of which included seating Paxing Tech / Cabin Crew into Exit rows wherever possible.

The old policy of not allowing paxing crew to sit in exits rows always used to annoy me, as the crew are the best people to have seated there !!!

sixtiesrelic 13th Aug 2011 03:10

It's nice to see sense is starting to prevail. Seeing the Garuda crew beside the exits on four consecutive 737 flights made me think that 'there was some real common sense' ,especially from a mob who most love to sledge.
I'd not seen it before or after in the 'big three I travell with in Oz and listening to the cackeling from the row behind me a week or so ago cemeted.
KIMIR ! you mention Jogja. Blinkered view mate... there's a lot more that have blokes in the pointy end, than just the mob who wrecked the rice paddi. Pointy enders who suffer loss of face and don't do anything to fix the mess. The majority hold their hands out palms up and say their last words because they BELIEVE it's out of their hands.

Kelly Slater 13th Aug 2011 06:49

Common sense and dignity really do appear to be on the up in Virgin if they are no longer treating paxing pilots with distain.

Catwalk Dweller 13th Aug 2011 08:27

psycho joe
 
"Each generation is convinced that they were better than the next."

Presumably, this statement would include you as well? :)

CelticRambler 17th Aug 2011 19:22


Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight (Post 6633253)
I’ve always thought it would be a good thing if the airlines could run a real basic EP/famil for interested pax occasionally, to experience such things as how easy/difficult it is to open a OWE hatch, where to stow it and other useful such stuff. They are, after all being expected to perhaps sometime perform a serious function for the airline, and an emergency situation is not the best time to first experience something.

On the cards; just waiting for various green lights ... ;)

training wheels 18th Aug 2011 11:46


Originally Posted by sixtiesrelic (Post 6637243)
It's nice to see sense is starting to prevail. Seeing the Garuda crew beside the exits on four consecutive 737 flights made me think that 'there was some real common sense' ,especially from a mob who most love to sledge.

Not just Garuda, but a number of airlines in Indonesia have the same policy of paxing crew sitting in the emergency exit row.


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