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gobbledock 26th Mar 2012 11:22

Iceberg ahead iceberg ahead.
 
Aagh yes Boston Bruce and Elaine Joyce receive another notch in their belt on the quest for Orange world domination. Dimwits, an epic failure awaits them.
However, they don't care if they lose money on the venture anyway, each new venture for the red or orange brand means the Australian CEO's receive an all new package of director fee's etc to add to their personal financial portfolios!

I can't wait to see the profit and loss statement this time next year. Can't wait to see the shareholders faces also.

KABOY 26th Mar 2012 11:22


Care for some more snake juice and a slice of donkey d**k anyone?

Another story from a plethora of such similar cases
Australian uranium mining companies ripping off African countries? | Face of Malawi

And one from the Australian file, dig back far enough I am sure we can find more too!!

Wedcue 26th Mar 2012 13:22

Plenty of "fortune cookies" in the crew room with a welcome message to Jetstar HK..

LCC splashing out..

boofta 26th Mar 2012 13:50

Must be almost time to talk to the pilots via Fair Work
making a ruling. Quick
Quick AJ make up another bull****e Asian expansion deal.
We must put up a smokescreen quickly to avoid actual
negotiations in good faith.
Quick, make up a story to scare the pilots,anything
will do. Hang on, we already tried this Asian expansion
thing, damn it I can't think of anything else!
It sucks being a stupid irish garden gnome without
a brain. At least he will be home for xmas.

TIMA9X 26th Mar 2012 15:00

declining significance of the Flying Kangaroo to the Qantas hierarchy. WOW!
 
a rather interesting view from Ian Verrender

This time Joyce does it differently

It also graphically illustrates the direction Joyce is taking, and the declining significance of the Flying Kangaroo to the Qantas hierarchy, which is rapidly being transformed into a Jetstar afterthought.


The deal announced yesterday contrasts starkly with last year's purported, and now abandoned, launch of a premium Asian carrier: a new airline that was to have been based somewhere in south-east Asia on an aviation plan that had more holes than a sponge in an alliance that was never consummated.
and Lateline Business for those who missed it




gobbledock 26th Mar 2012 20:19

Taken from behind
 
Oh don't worry, this 'international marriage' will be well and truly consumated, however it won't be the Roo doing any of the fu#king.

Sunfish 26th Mar 2012 21:25

Every new venture is another Thirty minutes of the Boards time at Board meetings and another few hours of reading and absorbing its reports.

How many ventures are there now within the Qantas "Group"?

How much time is being wasted on non essential discussion?

At what point will someone realise that while they have been captivated by the sideshows, Virgin has edged them out of the markets where the real money is to be made?

This is lunacy!

mmciau 26th Mar 2012 21:43

Sunfish,

And when they are finished with Qantas, these 'icons' will pick up their lunchbox and look for another company to screw over.

Mike

dragon man 26th Mar 2012 22:47

You would bet the house i reckon that Cathay will leave Oneworld now. With AA in chapter 11 and Delta and is it US Airways sniffing around them i think Oneworld might soon be a half world. Wonder how QF paxs will get to Rome if this happens.:D

73to91 26th Mar 2012 22:59

Plane Talking

Some interesting points in Ben Sanderlands post here.


interesting bit,

The Jetstar group CEO, Bruce Buchanan, said “We are exporting our expertise in running dual brands as in Qantas and Jetstar, not our jobs, …. nor our Melbourne headquarters.”
makes it sound like Melbourne is the HQ of Qantas and Jetstar !! I guess BB thinks it is.

ohallen 27th Mar 2012 00:09

This investment of $96m and 3-15 aircraft by 2015 is supposed to be the future of the new Qantas replacing most of the QF Longhaul strategy?

I just don't get it that anyone buys this as visionary when it is only a play thing now and for atleast the next 3 years. It will consume management time and focus while the real game is being played by others????

What happened to the large aircraft order??

LMFAO 27th Mar 2012 00:29

Good luck . I wish them every success. Hopefully Jetstar can get a fair share of the growth in Asia. You people astound me by wanting an Australian airline to fail.

denabol 27th Mar 2012 01:06

Is this cart before horse? There is an article here by someone who claims to know the law about being an airline based in Hong Kong who is saying that if Qantas gets away with this you could see Lufthansa Hong Kong, and Virgin Hong Kong and anything Hong Kong.

So maybe this isn't gunna happen.

Jetstar Hong Kong may require rewriting SAR's Basic Law | Plane Talking

bored 27th Mar 2012 01:44

pay
 
Expats in Hong Kong Pay the Highest Rent in The World : Expat News : Expat Info Desk

To all you boys looking for that quick command in a shiny jet earning a lofty Jetstar salary, hope you're prepared to bunk in with your like-minded mates in a Tung Chung shoebox!!

Gnadenburg 27th Mar 2012 02:41

And don't forget schooling in Hong Kong. I am just about to pay a $60,000AUD debenture for a good international school.

Maybe Jetstar pilots will home school like I heard they are doing in Singapore?

TheWholeEnchilada 27th Mar 2012 02:58

LMFAO, I'm surprised you can talk with your mouth full. By the by the way, I'd barely call it 6 inches, let alone a foot.

swh 27th Mar 2012 03:24

Might add that pilots will need to pay full Oz tax, as the Oz ATO works on the residence idea, not where you sleep or work, 23AG is dead. And the HK IRD works on the where the company is controlled idea. An airline cannot fly internationally out of HKG unless it is controlled from HKG, the 51% ownership rule (like Oz and SIN) does not apply in HKG.

CX pilots based in Oz pay full Oz tax, they are employed in Oz and are under Fair Work Oz, and also pay full HKG tax despite not working or living in HKG.

Jetstar will also need to justify the requirement for work visas, more than likely given an immigration stipulation to employ a reasonable percentage of locals in each employment group. HKG does not have GA, so that means an expensive cadetship which people cannot be bonded for under HKG law.

And lastly, HX and UO also have another 100 aircraft on order (so does CX/KA), does AJ think they will sit idle ? They are part of the Hainan Airlines group, the fourth largest airline in China.

Mstr Caution 27th Mar 2012 05:26

Webb Expects Jetstar Hong Kong to Face `Difficulties', March 27 (Bloomberg)

Sounds like another case of AJ divulging his plans prematurely to established players in Asia.

LMFAO 27th Mar 2012 05:41

I think you clowns have forgotten China Eastern. Bring that into the equation. Jetstar Japan will do very well with the JAL link up.

aussie027 27th Mar 2012 06:07

SWH, your comments re where the company is controlled are expanded on here in Ben's Blog by Andrew Pyne-

Jetstar Hong Kong may require rewriting SAR's Basic Law | Plane Talking

Pyne seems to have some good quals and knows what he is talking about.
If they do not get that regulatory approval it looks like the idea will be well and truly sunk.


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