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ACT Crusader 29th Jul 2011 07:39

Xenophon Private Members Bill - Foreign Crews
 
The Senator is getting the wheels in motion....


NEW LAWS NEEDED TO STOP FOREIGN CREWS ON AUSSIE PLANES FROM BEING EXPLOITED

Independent Senator for South Australia Nick Xenophon will introduce a Private Senator’s Bill that will force Australian airlines to provide the same flight and duty conditions for foreign crews as are currently given to Australian crews.

The move follows revelations that Jetstar's Bangkok-based foreign crews regularly work on flights that travel from one Australian location to another, and that most passengers would believe are domestic flights.

Under their contracts, these crews also have no limit on the hours they could be expected to fly, and say they are regularly fatigued to a level that they believe puts passenger safety at risk.

"I don't think a lot of people realise that the crew member on their flight from Brisbane to Cairns may actually be based in Bangkok, earning a base pay of less than $300 a month, and that they may have worked hours that Australian crews would not be allowed to," Nick said.
The Bill would require Australian airlines to offer foreign-based crews the same flight and duty time limitations that are offered to Australian crews under their industrial agreements.
The Bill would also apply to international airlines in which an Australian airline owns more than a 20% stake.

"This is a basic issue of fairness and safety," Nick said. "We shouldn't have an underclass of cabin crews flying around Australia on Australian carriers."

"In the event of an emergency, I believe passengers have a right to expect that their cabin crews are going to be alert enough to get the door open and the passengers out," Nick said.
Senator Xenophon has also said he will take up the issue of the low wages foreign crew are paid while employed by Australian airlines.

“It’s not good enough for Jetstar to say that a base wage of $300 a month is good by Bangkok standards," Nick said. "These workers are employed by an Australian airline, they are flying in Australia, and they deserve better."

For more information, please call Rohan Wenn on 0409 696 531 or Nick Xenophon on 0411 626 677


sprucegoose 29th Jul 2011 07:53

And that should go for flight deck crew too.

The Green Goblin 29th Jul 2011 07:53

Go get them Nick!

Keep the bastards honest :D

bobhoover 29th Jul 2011 08:12

keep up the good work Nick, soon you shall have your own chairmans lounge provided by the grateful crews of the australian aviation industry

Howard Hughes 29th Jul 2011 08:31

Perhaps a seat a little further forward than usual!:ok:

ACT Crusader 29th Jul 2011 08:49


Please tell me this is legit
The Senator issued the media release this afternoon. As with all private member bills, its all about trying to get support.

Howard Hughes 29th Jul 2011 08:54

A letter to your local member would be a good place to start!:ok:

Variable Incidence 29th Jul 2011 09:08

Good on ya Nick!

Nice to see that someone in government has some integrity, a sense of fairness, the guts to stand up for workers rights and the balls to try and stop the rot. This cancerous, spreading exploitation of foreign workers is not in the spirit of what Australia and Ozzies are about.

A fair, equal wage for doing the same day's work as your co-workers! That's the Ozzie spirit we should be promoting.

Hudson Fysh and Co would be turning in their graves if they could see what AJ & BB were trying to do to their beloved airline. Whatever happened to "The Spirit of Australia, the Flying Kangaroo"? Clearly AJ & Co just pay lip service to this too now!
:D

Mud Skipper 29th Jul 2011 09:41

It's hard nowdays to believe there is such a thing as a good polly!

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bigbrother 29th Jul 2011 09:51

not just a pretty face is our Nick
 
I have previously congratulated Sen. Xenaphon on other important issues confronting our great country. Coal Seam Gas, Foreign ownership of prime farming land, overseas ownership of our mineral resourses and a few others. This guy is amazing in how he has turned attention to issues that SHOULD be mainstream thinking by the major parties. I strongly suggest anyone of simlar thinking should contact him firstly, then as was suggested to me, contact your local Member of Parliment to tell them you support Nick's views and more importantly, his actions. I'm not a political lobbyiest but I do support this guy.

If we can only get some traction on the ****e way this industry is in a race to the bottom for pilot w&c, let alone the lack of any reasonable level of respect.

We need another 100 Nick Xenaphons.

wing it 29th Jul 2011 10:06

Jetstar Contracts
 
On Domestic flying in Australia at the moment you can have Cabin Crew on 3 different contracts and wages., EBA, Team Jetstar and Casual.
On International, you can have 4 different contracts., AWA, Team Jetstar and Singapore and Thai crews.
We all do the same work and yet get paid very differently. There really should equal pay for all.

my oleo is extended 29th Jul 2011 10:44

Senator Xenaphon, You are proving yourself to be possibly the only politician I have seen in decades who is worth something. You are elected by the people, you are paid by the people, you are expected to represent the people.
You have ticked all three boxes in my opinion. At least you can sleep well at night knowing that you have tried to correct and make safe the Australian aviation industry. Good work.

Note to other politicians and QF management - Take notice. This countries citizens have had a gutful of your spineless, self serving greed , lies and spins. You are on notice. The troops are growing restless, look around the globe, times are changing and your days are numbered.

Howard Hughes 29th Jul 2011 10:58

Nick Xenophon for President after the revolution!;)

Apologies for the thread drift...

D.Lamination 29th Jul 2011 11:39

Mud Skipper
Thanks for the email list.

My email to MPs urging them to support the bill has been sent.
:D

Handbrake 29th Jul 2011 11:47

Thanks MS, that's hours of research. You can take the rest of the day off!

bandit2 29th Jul 2011 11:48

Maybe we could send the above pollies a polite email & let them know what actually is going on at our National icon. Some call it Qantas. Think I might.

DirectAnywhere 29th Jul 2011 11:59

Nick, you're a legend.

Thanks.

muffman 29th Jul 2011 12:05

If the rest of our pollies had the integrity and were half as proactive as Nick Xenophon the world would be a much better place. He's doing a lot of good things for Australia, not just in aviation.

The Kelpie 29th Jul 2011 22:16

Jetstar (Buchanan) has said in the media that legislation is not needed because they have a fatigue management system in place.

No, what you really mean Bruce is that if there is legislation you will have to abide by it, which obviously you don't want to do. You would much rather interpret a washy washy QANTAS group fatigue policy that can be interpreted in many different ways to suit as many situations as necessary.

I would have to check the Senate Inquiry Hansard but I am sure that John Gissing testified that the QF group fatigue management policy was under review given deficiencies that had been identified. Yet, JG was blissfully unaware when senator Xenophon asked about the failings of certain systems. Sounds like a shambles to me!!!

More to Follow

The Kelpie

airtags 29th Jul 2011 22:58

"Smarter" CAO 48 for Pilots and CC ???
 
Mr Gissing told the Inquiry that at best the FAID system is only an broad indicator and that it is not a precise tool.

Noted that post Inquiry the term FAID has been dropped from Q-speak.......

Also heard that that the CC's OH&S Committees have been locked out of the FRMS project despite Q's project leader stating on record that:

"FRMS is not industrial - it's purely a safety issue" [this will be an important declaration in the future I suspect]

AT

- seem to recall BB & The Orange Emperor stating in the Inquiry that FRMS is consistent across the entire QF Group.......:yuk:


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