B777-300ERs are just brilliant planes. Even EK is making noises about the A350 maybe not being up to it as weight becomes and issue requiring more thruust

The 777 will be like the 747.

Around for a long time yet, in several more reincarnations.

I think it's time Qantas ate some of that Humble Pie, canned some of the gongs and leveraged Boeing into paying the penalties to Airbus for a decent sized 777 order.

I reckon 15-20 Airframes will tie in nicely, with 10 gongs and 10 74s. Boeing would be licking it's lips if QF canned anymore 380s. In fact I bet they'd offer a good package of 748s and 773s in the process.

Over to de lit'le man ter be sure ter be sure :hmm:

There must be a few more airlines with stupid management 'dragon man', because Boeing had 48 new orders in April alone, apparently.

Boeing Boosts Widebody 777 Production*|*AviationBrief – Your Daily Aviation Intelligence Brief

more j* sponging
 

not sure if anyone mentioned it yet but all the engineering support, meaning the CAR 35s on call out of hours within the OST group all do jetstar engineering support and write their EA,s, all of these guys and their tech cell support staff are QF employees, all on double dollars plus call up allowance...

Last week EK indicated they may cancel their order for 20 x A350-1000's and replace it with more B777-300's. BA are considering a further B777-300 order.

(The mighty B777. 0 to 100 kph in 6 seconds)

Ps. BA plan to recruit 800 pilots over the next 5 years. So much for the mess at QF.

Old Technology
 

CX ordered another 12 B 777
SQ another 8 B777
QF:ugh::{

From the SMH this morning.
Boeing 787 Dreamliner | FAA certification expected next week

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In the meantime, the "very modest" cost of adding new engines to the 737 rather than replacing it frees up cash to improve the 777 and do a stretched version of the 787 to compete with larger rival Airbus SAS, he said. The company is in talks with half a dozen airlines about the "777-X," he said.

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Albaugh said he wouldn't be surprised if Boeing takes in more orders this year than it fills. The company booked new contracts for 19 more 777s in the past week,

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Silly airlines whoever you are, you should have asked GD for some quality advice.

Old technology alright, where are the winglets and why dont the gears tilt the right way? :rolleyes:
Lucky QF did not waste money on them.:ugh:

It is interesting to read that Boeing has received a net 98 orders for the B777 so far in 2011. The net orders for the B787 in 2011 are -20.

This thread (& ALAEA actions) are having an effect!
 

Ground engineers in SIN who service both Qantas and Jetstar aircraft are now having to fill in forms whenever they work on Jetstar aircraft - so for the first time at this port, Jetstar are being billed for fuel, oil, engineering services etc instead of the all costs being attributed to Qantas.

More and more Journos are aware of the deceit of QF management and since management are scared that their house of cards are about to fall down around their ears, they are making changes to pretend that the whole operation is legit.

Hold on everyone, before we starts slagging off at the decision about NOT buying 777. Consider the fact that buying them may have affected the balance sheets in the short term, hence (GD/AJ) BONUS. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ . And we all know short term greed of a few managers is FAR more important than the long term viability of QF. You guys need to see the bigger picture.
TGM

The point is they are starting to kill of Qantas mainline so much that poor old jetstar is going to start making a loss! Bring it on! These fools are so pathetic, call them managers? ha! Call them idiots!

Was trying to book a flight to Paris tonight on Qf site. 90% of the flights that came up, and all the lowest price ones were codeshares. Typically JQ to SIN and then AF to CDG. If I wanted to fly an airline that wasn't Qantas I would have gone to another site. They are actively encouraging pax on to other airlines :ugh:

To be fair 1a, what you mention may well be out of Qantas' management hands. What you are most likely witnessing first hand is nothing more than the excellence of Qantas IT :ugh:

On the S7 (Siberian Airlines) website you can get a return Sydney-Moscow for $937 incl all fuel fines dep tax etc flying with QF SYD-FRA-SYD.

On th QF website the cheapest return SYD-FRA is $2188, including taxes of $815.

Either QF are ripping the punters off with the taxes or they lose money big time on the partnership with S7.

ALAEA,

Going back to the original issue that you raised, do you have a substantial list of issues that can now be addressed to Rat Execs in an appropriate forum?

Hopefully these Execs will eventually provide some "spin less" answers to assure us all that they are on top of the issues and all the views expressed here have no foundation.

Yeah, I know I am dreaming again but I still live in hope.

If they cannot or will not respond, where does it go to from there beyond the hot air file?

Hey all,

All responses both public and private have been put together. Thanks to all the posters and former Qantas employees and Executives who have assisted. The list has been culled as some suggestions were baseless or duplicated and a final compilation of 61 questions with sub parts was formally put to the airline last week.

cheers
Steve

May I suggest that it also be sent to every Board member putting them on notice and to every major shareholder.

Steve, the timing of your submission to QF management appears to coincide with when the SIN engineers were instructed to start charging Jetstar costs to Jetstar - your efforts are having an effect. :D

I posted yesterday about flights to France on the QF website and how the cheap flights were not even with QF.

The crazy site has some more silly results. The entire QF fare structure is out of whack. What a circus

Qantas domestic fares cheaper than Jetcrap WTF? | Plane Talking

Let’s go back to almost everything Qantas ever said about Jetstar, how it wouldn’t compete head to head with Jetstar, and would address an entirely different type of price driven customer and then try to make sense of what Qantas.com and Jetstar.com.au had on offer for Monday week on Australia’s busiest domestic route.

Qantas.com had $112 fares between Sydney and Melbourne at very convenient times of the day. And this does include a checked bag and something to eat with tea or coffee, which cost extra on the cheapest level of fares offered by Virgin Australia and on the Jetstar and Tiger fares, cheap or otherwise.

In fact in the screen grabs immediately below, you can see Qantas going head to head with Jetstar on the route, and fencing Jetstar’s cheapest fare as shown on Qantas.com of $167 for its 3.40 pm flight with the $112 QF fares with food and a checked bag included as well as more room for your knees.

Even more astonishing is the 7 am Qantas departure offering a flexible $219 fare compared to the flexible fare of $347 being asked by Jetstar for its separate 7 am departure.