Reduced demand due to the introduction of the Carbon Tax and its flow on implications ?.

Re 734s
 

Had the misfortune to be on QF 501 Tuesday morning out of BNE on one of the newer 734s - TJY. The A/C was absolutely full with all the suits trying valiantly to stuff their computer bags as well as roller bags into the overhead lockers.
It is about time QF looked after their frequent travellers. The 767 was a good A/C to travel in back in the early '90s but are very jaded now - upwards of 20 yrs old.
AJ - switch the 787s to mainline rather than the LCC and you might have a win over DJ

I also had the pleasure of paxing home after a trip on the ol' classic 737. No other words can describe it other than pure embarrassment. TV screens similar to what I remember watching at my nana's house, scuff marks in business on the side panels, and "entertainment" buttons that don't work. The businessman next to me couldn't listen to the Man vs Wild repeat for the 100th time! But our aim is to be the world's best premium airline.

I just hope this doesn't mean they are going to delay the retirement of those rust buckets.:yuk:

Maybe the new owners of QF wanted this before the takeover next month??

2006 $11.1 B.
2011 Bargain at todays share price just $4 B

No don't let the classics go they're the only ones I can land smoothly!

Dont all the 734s need to be gone by the end of 2013? Something to do with ADS-B compliance

or just fly them below fl 290. Would hate to see the fuel bill though

Who flies above FL260? Too slow up there!

Me.

I destroyed most of my high frequency racing around at the VMO/MMO crossover. :mad:

Gotta hang onto what I have left - which is not much!!

What ever happened to the original plan of Express Freighters taking 6 733s and then rolling over to the last 6 734's when their retirements were up??? They only ever took 4 -300s, but are they still planning on converting the -400s?

Don't ever let a crisis go to waste. That's the motto of big business especially BCG and Oldmeadow consulting.

I think you'll find that this announcement makes little change to what is really happening in the Qantas Group... Consider for one minute that 3 narrow body "cancellation/deferrals" this month is supposed to make $100million to the bottom line. How much does an A320 or B738NG cost?

Notice that everyone has focussed on the word "cancelled" and ignored the next words "or deferred".

3 narrow bodies by the end of this month is not $100 million.

Doesn't add up I'm sorry, so this is obviously a pathetic attempt by a struggling CEO to meet a few last minute KPI's, desperately save the share price and his job, and attempt to upset the plans for PIA by the employees. Sorry AJ, FAIL.

You've got a 20-year-old Toyota that's actually in pretty good shape, been "log-book" serviced by the dealer all its life, but, let be honest, isn't worth very much now above scrap value.

So you look at trading it in on a brand-new Toyota Prius i-Tech......$50,629.96* with an ADR fuel consumption of 4 liters / 100km

So you take your old Toyota to the panel-beater, he quotes you $1,000 to pull out a couple of dings, $1,000 for a new paint job, and his mate, a motor trimmer, says he'll recover all your upholstery for you for just $1,000.

Walking around SuperCheap Auto, you see that with change out of $1,000 you can get a new in-dash radio and GPS, add SatNav to your car and buy a new air freshener too !!

The "mechanicals" are all in good condition as it was regularly serviced and parts have always been replaced on an as-needed basis.

Right now, a "just-used" Prius i-tech is on Used Cars & New Cars for Sale | Car Sales & Car Reviews - Drive.com.au for $45,000**, you drop $5,000 when you drive it out of the showroom.

You're worried that your old Toyota might not be compliant with some "regulation" that's coming into place in the not-too-distant-future, so you check the regulators website for more information.........

Does it make sense to pay $50K plus for that new Prius that's going to drop $5,000 as you drive it off the dealers yard, while it certainly may use a lot less fuel then your existing Toyota, $50,000 @ 10% is $5,000 pa in interest, for that sort of money, PLUS the fuel you still need to buy, you'll never be ahead !

Does anyone here really think that CASA would shut Qantas down on 12 Dec 2013 if Qantas said "Our planes aren't ready" ?

No, They tried that once before with Ansett, they won't do it again !!!

So for $3,000 - $4,000 you can bring you old "clunker" up to a very good standard, anyone see where I'm going with this, or are you all queuing up to buy new Priuses :D !!

ST

*Toyota.com.au
**Used Cars & New Cars for Sale | Car Sales & Car Reviews - Drive.com.au
***Automatic Dependent Surveillance Broadcast (ADS-B) - ADS-B Mandate - Airservices Australia

Once upon a time, there was a fleet of DC-9's that were sold for almost scrap value by an airline. The aircraft were actually modded up to almost new.

The aircraft were immediately sub contracted to a very large Government entity for a great deal of money and the Two owners of the airline and the aircraft buyer walked off with a great deal of money and no tax man was any the wiser.


The value of an aircraft depends to some extent on its maintenance history and modification status

Like I said, desperate measures by a desperate CEO to obfuscate and meet KPIs.

But KPIs are a good idea - don't get me wrong.

Most of the other "Premium" (ie Legacy) Airlines are still buying aircraft
 

Thai Airways announces $3.9 Airbus, Boeing orders

BANGKOK - Thai Airways announced Monday that it would acquire 23 Airbus and 14 Boeing passenger and cargo airplanes for about $3.9 billion to modernise its ageing fleet.

The carrier said the deals, which have been approved by its board of directors, would enable it to grow profits and be among the top three leading airlines in Asia in terms of quality and service efficiency.

The airline plans to buy six Boeing 777-300ER planes, four Airbus A350-900s and five A320-200s for a total of about $1.6 billion, for delivery between 2014 and 2017.

It will also lease 22 aircraft, including eight Boeing 787 Dreamliners, to be delivered between 2012 and 2017, a company statement said.

"Acquiring new aircraft made from lightweight and non-corrosive composite material to replace retiring aircraft will save fuel and maintenance costs," it added.

Currently the Thai carrier operates a mix of Airbus and Boeing planes, including some ageing 747 jumbos.

The launch of Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner, heralded as a new generation of highly fuel-efficient mid-sized aircraft, has been repeatedly delayed due to a string of technical mishaps.

Delivery of the first planes is now scheduled for the third quarter of 2011.

by Ian Timberlake
(c) 2011 AFP

Spanner Twister

Fine analysis of the old "Tojo" but you missed the mass of spot welds that have sheared because mum kept banging the car against the gutter - read "the rivets are spinning in their holes on the fuselage"

Yay!! Already looking forward to the next 734 trip across the ditch.

737 Freighters
 

Was involved with the conversions of the 4 733 to Freight config, there was chatter about doing 2 more , never happened, there was also chatter about doing 734, but the killer was although they are a bigger AC they still carry the same max weight as a 733, and the 733 hardly ever maxed out the volume vs weight. Was a good jolly for a few of us would loved to had a efw extra months at AVV on that gig.

The Toyota analogy is nice. And will work if you're carting the kids around. On the other hand if you pull up at Changi terminal 1 to pick me up, I'll wait for the Prius :-)

When fortunate enough to travel J class, the A330 has it over the 767. I work for the Loco and I agree (money issues aside) that the premium pax should get the Prius (787) not the FJ landcruiser.

So with 6 A320 and 6 73H being deferred, we will not see any new routes opened up or increased frequencies on existing routes in the next 12 months. So it will be a boring year ahead with no expansion at the QF Group. Maybe VA can announce some new international destinations in the coming months, they have a few A330's on order from Airbus along with the ex -EK birds.
Of course I nearly forgot to mention Strategic's U.S. and China plans.