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slamer. 15th Aug 2011 17:10

temasek
 
EWL .... nice summary. Good to see some informed and unemotional discussion on this .... finally.

teresa green 16th Aug 2011 00:32

Us TAA blokes felt the same as we watched as Strong totally dismantled our much loved airline. It felt like somebody kicked you in the guts. Now after reading the Australian only 10 minutes ago, I have a terrible feeling some of the QF blokes are about to get the same sinking feeling. 1000 staff members on very shaky ground indeed, as Joyce takes QF to Asia.:*

dynasty744 1st Sep 2011 05:35


Spoke to Korda Mentha this morning - Ansett payments being made within the next 2 weeks and definately be end of August, which is 2 weeks max! Good news...after 10 years our super will be released and final payment made, closure at last.....spread the word!
Well that didn't happen, anyone got any other information???

priapism 1st Sep 2011 07:23

I don't know about others but my link to the Ansett staff website no longer works and hasn't for several weeks.

benjam 1st Sep 2011 08:00

What AN Staff website?

Jetro6UL 1st Sep 2011 08:28

Ansett Australia - Home

Then click on "Staff Information"...password "anpeople"

Still works for me. Nothing new since December though.

Jetro6UL 2nd Sep 2011 01:31

It's up:


Romulus 2nd Sep 2011 02:10


Originally Posted by anthill
I had a car that was salary packaged. I recieved 4 calls from wholesalers who expressed a willingness to 'help me out' by offering to take the car off my hands for about $15,000 below market rate.

Fricking heck! What sort of car and what sort of price?

benjam 2nd Sep 2011 03:07

Thanks for the info

Jetro6UL 2nd Sep 2011 04:42

No worries.

Anthill 2nd Sep 2011 05:45

Romulus-- Nothing flash Subaru Liberty RX wagon (every option..). I still have it, 230,000km and it runs like a clock. Best car ever...;)

Best offer was $22,000 for an 8 month old car (list price was nearly $50k).

Jetro6UL 2nd Sep 2011 07:46

Deposit made into my account this afternoon.

Thanks Korda/Mentha.....you guys did well (to the tune of many, many millions).

Thanks also to the Minister for Qantas (John Anderson), Air NZ, former PM John Howard, and the fantastic management of Ansett who made it all possible.

It was a wild ride.

RATpin 2nd Sep 2011 11:05

And please,lets not forget M.M.W,later of SACL fame.

Buster Hyman 2nd Sep 2011 11:57

As I have been "paid" for the last 9 years & 355 days by Ansett, I can now say that after 27 & a half years, I have officially left the aviation business with this final payment. :(

I'm so glad to have been a part of the Korda/Mentha money making machine, and I wish those guys all the very best as they suck the life out of the next carcass they prey upon! :mad:

the rim 2nd Sep 2011 14:03

ansett payment
 
am glad to hear that you guys and girls got your money....or at least some of it....hopefully the backroom boys get some sort of praise for keeping the ansett fight alive,so give a little credit to David K.and his mates from the past ALAEA fed ex...they always kept the dream alive

ReverseFlight 2nd Sep 2011 15:08

And it's official ...
Ansett workers get closure, 10 years on

With today's final dividend of $5.3 million, they had received on average 96 cents in the dollar, administrators KordaMentha said.

FlareArmed 3rd Sep 2011 03:36

I'll miss my annual Christmas bonus – it seemed to arrive just in the nick of time each year.

Touch'n'oops 3rd Sep 2011 08:37

Really glad to hear you finally got most of what was owed to you guys.

Still a damn shame, the time it took and the fact that Ansett folded in the first place.

At least you had people behind the scenes working on this a decade on.

keagy 6th Sep 2011 05:42

What of Ansett Coal and the regional airline they intend to have running December 2011 with 4 Dash 8's?

Tankengine 6th Sep 2011 06:40

Not part of the Ansett that died 10 years ago.

TheNightOwl 7th Sep 2011 04:51

G'day, all,

I got my notification of the final dividend on Monday, and I sat down this morning to work out the %age received vs sum owed.

Of the "Redundancy owed greater than eight weeks" sum of $86264.94, I have been paid, via the 14 dividends, the total of $78191.02, leaving $8073.92 to be found somewhere in the ether!
That's a rate of 90.64%, and I have no complaints at all, it's a damned sight more than I expected 10 years ago. I'm quite impressed with the two Marks - I understand that our loss was their windfall, but I'm sure that we fared far better with them than with the course which I believe the original appointees had in mind. IIRC they were PWC?

Kind regards from a reasonably happy TNO>:ok:

fender 7th Sep 2011 06:05

What gripes me most is how the government double dipped and made a fortune from the closure.
If I remember correctly there was a $10/ ticket tax until some $330 million was raised and then they required the same amount back from the administrators.
If that's true then...................

ampclamp 7th Sep 2011 07:51

The feds cleaned up big time. That really pi$$ed off a lot of people who were happy enough to pay the levy but not just to prop up general revenue. I think I received about 90% also. can't complain about that. Ansett were lucky to have still owned some assets worth selling to fund redundancies. Thanks to all who helped out. It was pretty tough early on.

Are there any reunions planned?

unionist1974 8th Sep 2011 08:06

Good luck and best wishes to all ex Ansett colleagues , coming up to an emotional time for you all . My thoughts are with you all and sincere best wishes for your future .

B772 9th Sep 2011 00:06

ampclamp. I hear their are reunions and lunches/dinners in most capital cities.

You may also be interested in After Ansett | Careers of Strength and Spirit

denabol 10th Sep 2011 08:08

There is a series of stories running on Plane Talking about the Ansett collapse that read like chapters from a book. I'm not sure if they are much comfort for the victims of Ansett in what I've read so far but there is stuff there I've never heard of before.

It talks about Toomey resigning all his directorships a month before Ansett was shut down by the first by the first administrators, and a new name for Ansett that was about to be put on a 767 in hanger in Christchurch, it was going to be Pacific Star maybe, and how Singapore Airlines and Qantas both refused to buy Ansett for $1 a week before it went under.

Ansett 2001: Was it to be Pacific Star or Australian Star? | Plane Talking

Kev9 10th Sep 2011 09:42

After Ansett | Careers of Strength and Spirit


What a cynical individual :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Nero62 15th Sep 2011 07:10

The past predicts the future....
 
This ends a sad chapter in Australian Aviation. Ansett was a great company, but it flourished in an environment of government protection. Its cost base was not sustainable in the deregulated world that brings us cheap plasmas. Qantas faces the same issue and has only survived due to Ansett's collapse. Now, its strategy is to back the brand that makes the most money. Seems reasonable. I wonder when that premium carrier has been relegated to history, how those staff will feel. Will they blame everyone else too? Australians need to take some lessons from Ansett. Be efficient or be unemployed.

ampclamp 15th Sep 2011 07:36

yes its cost base was not sustainable especially after years of cashflow shifting to TNT and Newscorp when they were nearly broke. Air NZ were half the size and to be frank, at the time, incompetent.Their ambition was clearly higher than their ability to carry out any due diligence on what was a hollow log.

Whiskery 15th Sep 2011 08:17

Nero62..............interesting handle for a management plant.;)

Cryptic for new ruler perhaps or........something more sinister maybe?

Anthill 15th Sep 2011 10:41

That's right Lefty :ok:

As for you, Nero, I might add that a poor tradesman blames his tools and a poor manager blames their staff :=

Lookleft 15th Sep 2011 10:49

Reading recent AIPA cautions about being stressed worried and about mortgages I can't help remembering what it was like ten years ago. I feel very sorry for the QF pilots who are going through all this at the moment. Although their company hasn't been shut down uncertainty is still a crap feeling.

I also never take for granted that the pay goes in on the 14th of the month.

And for Ner62 the past does predict the future-it was corporate greed and incompetence that did Ansett in and it will do the same to Qantas.

1746 15th Sep 2011 11:17

Spot on! Lefty

ampclamp 15th Sep 2011 13:24

If the 'last in first out' rule is applied at QF there will be quite a few ex-Ansett boys and girls back on the scrap heap. :(

obie2 16th Sep 2011 08:47

Just as a matter of interest, how much did the overseas scab pilots, who joined Ansett after the 89' pilots dispute, walk away with after only 10 yrs service, compared to most of you with probably 25 to 40 yrs service?

RU/16 16th Sep 2011 08:56

Obie,
Get a life!

obie2 16th Sep 2011 10:03

So, you are probably one of those overseas scabs 16?
Just waiting to jump ship again, but this time to Qantas?

airsupport 16th Sep 2011 21:24

Finally, what goes around comes around. :ok:

Kev9 17th Sep 2011 13:26

obie2

Is that...?

Alex Pa?terson
The individual who orchastrated the 'Sc@blist'?

Good to see your rehab is going well.:ugh:

RU/16 18th Sep 2011 09:38

Just been to the Perth reunion great to see everyone and that the family lives on.
Obie youd be happy to know all scabs healed!!!!!!
keep smiling


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