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Flogged Horse 31st Mar 2011 01:11

I agree that something has to be done re regulation but not with this bucket of slop Gillard government having anything to do with it.

I have never really followed the QF fleet thing closely but can someone remind why QF never went down the 777 route? Seems all the big boys that want to make money have them with orders spilling out of Boeing's door. I don't wish to start a rumble about it just looking for facts as to why the 'tripler' was turned down.

Cheers,

FH

runesta 1st Apr 2011 12:25

everyone knows the 767s are old... what can you do when the 787 is late by 4 years? :ugh:

still think Joyce is better than Dixon. Dixon's segmentation idea was like a cancer within Qantas which created unnecessary duplication and top-heavy management structures.

The fact of the matter is airline shares are worthless.

"I've never invested in any airline. I'm an airline manager. I don't invest in airlines. And I always said to the employees of American, 'This is not an appropriate investment. It's a great place to work and it's a great company that does important work. But airlines are not an investment.'"
- Robert Crandall, former president and chairman of American Airlines

1a sound asleep 1st Apr 2011 12:59


have never really followed the QF fleet thing closely but can someone remind why QF never went down the 777 route?
When they looked at the 777 at the time they ordered the 747ER the 777 was actually more expensive. On the surface buying 777 would have been a huge financial cost (in the short term) with parts, training, sim etc. They never looked at long term fuel costs or the advantages of moving away from the 747 addiction.

33 Disengage 1st Apr 2011 17:41


have never really followed the QF fleet thing closely but can someone remind why QF never went down the 777 route?
Just one of the reasons GD will go down in history as the worst CEO. Mind you, AJ looks like he might want to try and steal the title.

TIMA9X 1st Apr 2011 18:41

A light hearted look at Airline Management
 

GD will go down in history as the worst CEO. Mind you, AJ looks like he might want to try and steal the title.
It's a toss up!




dedicated to all front line staff on here at DG & P, many thanks. Trust it will get a few laughs! :):ok:

The Kelpie 1st Apr 2011 21:28

PMSL

Well Done Tima9x

The Kelpie

moa999 2nd Apr 2011 02:37

re QF and the 777...
just look at how successful the 777 was on the jnb route for Virgin.
australia's geographic position is not great for the tripler and you can't just buy it for a single route and introduce yet another type

Keg 2nd Apr 2011 04:21

A single route?
 
The 777 would go gangbusters on SYD-SFO, BNE-SFO, somewhere-SIN-FRA, somewhere-SIN-CDG, somewhere- SIN/BKK- Vienna, Amsterdam, etc. There are plenty of routes for it, Qantas just doesn't fly to any of them. The reason we don't fly to any of them is because we don't have 777s. :ugh:

As to the original post, I don't believe AJ will be gone. I reckon he's performing precisely as authorised by the Chairman and the board. The problems that Qantas have start higher than the CEO and that's why all QF employees should be worried about the direction we're going. :suspect:

AlphaLord 2nd Apr 2011 04:37

Joyce vs Borghetti
 
Joyce was given the CEO position because he would be both grateful and compliant.
Borghetti is anything but compliant.
Qantas' loss Virgin's Gain

xjt 2nd Apr 2011 06:08

what Keg said.........:D

StallBoy 2nd Apr 2011 09:52

Good to see QANTAS is returning to it's core business :DYes Australia to NewZealand the dearest piece of water to cross in the world :ok:but the best returns. All we need now is for the government to re-regulate the airline industry:eek:

hbomb 2nd Apr 2011 21:15

QF's limited fleet
 
I returned from SFO on QF 74 last week and was very disappointed to discover that the route is being axed (again) in favour of DFW. Not enough equipment to service both I was told. Similarly, not enough equipment for more than LHR and FRA in Europe. Europe's worst airports if you are in transit. If only there were a few spare 777s around. Of course I haven't seen the numbers but it is hard to believe that SFO wouldn't generate a 777 load if it operated daily. Especially since QF doesn't operate anywhere in northern north america. And now that Air Berlin is joining Oneworld, ditching its loco origins and developing a hub in VIE, it would be good if QF could join up there. If only it had a few 777s. If only...

newsensation 2nd Apr 2011 21:21

What about more Qantas services to London via Bangkok???

Mud Skipper 2nd Apr 2011 23:32

What about a Qantas service from Melbourne to Bangkok:}:}:}

skybed 4th Apr 2011 02:00

word on the street is
 
with the new curfew in FRA later this year, QF is actively looking for an alternate airport in Europa.Given that Air Berlin is joining the one world alliance next year one of their hubs in Berlin, Munich or Vienna might be a possibility.:ok:

Taildragger67 4th Apr 2011 04:11

What is it, 5 new A380 hulls joining this year? Plus one being returned after getting the splinters out; each to co-incide with a 744 getting pensioned off.

So would there not be capacity if the Jumbos were retained? At least until some Triplers arrived... :E

TIMA9X 13th Apr 2011 00:58

After the Disco - Bean Counters Check In - Part 3
 
Crying poor again?

Kangaroo Court 13th Apr 2011 05:07

Freakin' awesome dude!

TIMA9X 26th Apr 2011 14:08

Who's Driving? update 26-04-11
 


Part-4 J&W, a few of the guys I have worked with for years put a song together, towards the cause, ie; Keep aviation jobs in Oz!

Song Who's Driving from Blakhatz Sydney.

Enjoy. :) update, fixed sound streaming and link problem.

adsyj 27th Apr 2011 00:02

Just in regards to the original post and headline of this thread.

Could it be that the plan to sell off Jetstar and then reinvent Qantas as a premium carrier is not totally without merit.

Unfotuanetly I am not a business expert and would be happy to hear from the more informed on this subject.

I see it this way:

Jetstar being sold would stop the drain on Qantas finances.
Qantas effectively leaves the very competitive LCC market and uses the funds from the sale to ramp up its international and profitable business domestic market.
I imagine a sale of Jetstar would result in solid bonuses for the QF Board and Management and we know how they love that.

I'm sure there are many other valid reasons.

I throw this open to discussion and would love to hear from the more knowledgeable amongst us.


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