Which Qantas Does Leigh Clifford Work For?
 

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Qantas says it's a great place to work

October 29, 2010 - 4:14PM
Qantas Airways Ltd is a great place to work and there's a high demand for jobs, the airline's chairman Leigh Clifford says. Workers seeking a five per cent pay rise handed out "boarding passes" that pitched their case to shareholders on Friday outside the annual general meeting in Adelaide.
The passes said they were the face of Qantas and that the usual three per cent payrise did not take into account improved productivity, and fell short of private sector average wage increases.
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Inside the meeting, chairman Leigh Clifford told workers he was happy with how the company is managing its staff.
"You've got to recognise that it's an extremely competitive environment internationally," he said.
"Qantas is seeing more and more players competing here, so we have to ensure our cost structure is competitive."
Chief executive Alan Joyce later told journalists the airline was a "great place to work" and offered a whole range of benefits to employees.
Mr Clifford said there was a "pretty high demand for jobs".
"When you talk to employees they are pretty keen on working for Qantas.
"It's a very, very competitive business with challenging margins and we have got to make sure that we have the conditions that will attract employees retain employees."

The fact that so many employees feel a sense of pride in working for Qantas in no way reflects upon the performance of senior management. They feel it in spite of what management are doing to the company.

Clifford is living proof that you dont need a long neck and feathers to be a goose. We never hear about all the people who would like the senior management and board positions for less money. No , its only the workers who are over paid. No wonder the airline is in so much trouble.

That is hilarious stuff !! Clifford and Little Al certainly on fire.
They are either;
A) Stupid
B) Misunderstood
C) Liars
D) Comedians
E) Totally and utterly disconnected from the real world, perhaps living in some parralell universe or have discovered time travel along with Dr Emett Brown and Marty Mcfly
F) Simply fooling the silly old tossers in the audience aged in their 80's and wearing tweed coats and panama hats, or
G) Panicking that the current senate inquiry and the rumblings form Boston Bruce's corner of the world may spook investors and undermine confidence in his new LCC Qantas !

Not My Qantas
 

The Qantas I work doesn't even remotely resemble the Qantas Mr.Clifford works for
I work with 35000 disgruntled people.
Mr. Clifford appears to works with a happy board and an overpaid,compliant naive Irish CEO and 500 happy bonus driven parasites(managers)
Come to think of it they are the same company.
Only the perception is different.....top down cf.bottom up:{:{:{

Last time I checked I took redundancy and now work in PNG rather than working for the Qantas Group, employer of choice my arse.

Clifford:Misinformed or Stupid ?
 

According to Clifford we are all happy about the way we are managed and we all feel we are very well paid.
Que?
Leigh(Manuel)Clifford is sadly mistaken

Clifford and AJ's performance at the AGM, backed by the media statements courtesy of the pollie feret were nothing more than further insults to the employees and crew and showed they have no interest in the average shareholder just the key institutionals, and of course themselves.

Never attribute pride and professionalism of your staff to myopic management self applause.

Club Clifford including AJ and Lady McBeth Bruce all need to grasp a little more foresight and a lot less foreskin.

AT :E

Apparently he doesnt recognise this fact in terms of his, his board, his CEO, or his executives remuneration packages. They are still PIGS in the trough. When is enough going to be enough? This human filth deserves to learn a bit about life. Clearly he has NO idea.

The Chairman was on one of our flights about 6 weeks ago coming back from LAX.
Calling him a Goose is an injustice to our fine feathered friends:hmm:

He swaggered on board ,turned left and plonked himself in 2K and thats where he stayed for the entire trip. Not once did he get up to converse with the crew or CSM .....so for him to say: ""When you talk to employees they are pretty keen on working for Qantas."
TOTAL CRAP !
The only talking to employees this clown muttered was... "more champagne, more Cab Sav, more Dessert Wine" etc etc.
When are we going to get "management" that actually VALUE their staff or is that just a naive ,utopian model that no company will ever get !!!
After putting up with the "reign of terror" from Darth and his band of marauding thieves -I stupidly thought ...."things have got to get better now".
Nope :ugh: Wrong .
This article is utterly offensive to all hardworking QANTAS GROUP staff.
The old saying "What you sow....you shall reap ".......well the seeds of doom and gloom were sown 10 years ago.
Qantas is now reaping the harvest of discontent, disengagement,dissatisfaction and disdain:ouch:

Given Up
 

I have given up waiting for a CEO or senior management to engage the workforce.
These people(The Visitors) have no loyalty to Qantas.They are here to rip as much out of the place before they leave.
Clifford is a perfect example.A man in his twilight years who has been a given a comfy job as chairman of na airline board.Substantial benefits and a healthy remuneration.All this without any real responsiblity.All he has to do is keep the Irishman on a tight leash and bamboozle the board with arrogant bluster.He is person whose only airline experience is putting his bum in a P/C seat
I just keep my head down,tell my manager everything is wonderful and then go home.
1850 days to go

Ace...
 

About 2 weeks before me you lucky bugger depending on how much my kids cost me from now:sad:

Of course he would say it is a great place to work.It always looks good from the top and to be frank who is going to tell the chairman the place sucks?
There are many worse places to earn a living I am sure but it is not the 1st choice either.If not for staff travel many many would not bother.Particularly those on lower incomes who could not afford to travel otherwise.

Well, I, and a lot of others, have a lot more that 1850 days to go (hopefully) and that's not helping much.

At the risk of incurring the unending wrath of the malcontents and discontents (:ugh::ugh:), I suggest that anyone who is unhappy working at Qantas get to hell out of the place by resigning and securing employment at a workplace that offers Ts&Cs more akin to their liking and that will match their vast array of undoubted talents.

No one is required, forced, compelled, coerced, conscripted etc to work at Qantas. Either move on or do what most do: enjoy working for one of the best employers in the country. Almost all staff, including Cabin Crew, who I regularly see are doing just that.

Ken What do you do for a crust?
 

Many people stay at QF and tolerate the visitors because of the commraderie that exists amongst the employees...not the management...but the employees.The real people who make Qantas what it was and what it is.Qantas should be the best airline in the world ...but it ain't...and thats purely down to cost cutting.You want to be premium you need to spend money on the product.Decrewing and providing two scoops only of potato for P/C customers just doesnt cut it.
I stay because I changed my mindset.Management exist only to entertain employees ......and in that they are successful.I cant change anything or improve anything because I am prevented from doing so.So like many others I have given up.I have a few laughs do my job well and go home.I certainly dont care about the place like I used to.Having said that I do care enormously for my colleagues and the customers.
Qantas runs on the enormous pool of goodwill of its employees.
We are not disengaged but rather managment are disengaged from us
Pity...but thats the way it is.Once you accept this AJ Clifford and all the other snouts cease to be important

Why Dixon Left Early
 

He was out arseholed by Clifford

Stubby:


Clifford appears to be another narcissist like Dixon is. As I've said before, once a few of them get into an organisation, they push good people out and attract more narcissists into the organisation.

The mechanism is very simple. Narcissists like their arses licked regularly by their employees. The only ones who will do that are other narcissists, hence they are the ones that get hired and promoted.


The old British joke about Naval recruitment is not a joke to a narcissist - when the officer candidate was asked who were the Three greatest British naval heroes he replied "Nelson, Drake, and, what did you say your name was Sir?"

Leigh I'll have another one Clifford. When next you fly, ask the flight attendants if they've had him on board, gives a good insight into the man.
How did we end up with him? Where is his airline knowledge?
About time we poached Fyfe from Air NZ and got this outfit back on the rails.