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A somewhat questionable headline.....

Anyways it's official.

Qantas does Dallas, dumps San Francisco

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Qantas does Dallas, dumps San Francisco
January 14, 2011 - 11:27AM

Qantas Airways will apply to the consumer watchdog for permission to co-ordinate its trans-Pacific operations with American Airlines, as it dumps direct flights to San Francisco in favour of Texas.

Dallas/Fort Worth, in Texas, is American Airlines largest hub airport. Qantas said today it would begin direct flights to Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) on May 16, after ending flights to San Francisco on May 14.

The Dallas/Fort Worth service would provide Qantas with access to American Airlines regional network, meaning it could offer codeshare services to another 13 destinations in the US and three in Mexico.
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Qantas said it would operate four times a week direct from Sydney to Dallas/Fort Worth starting May 16, using a three-class Boeing 747.

The return leg will fly through Brisbane.Dallas/Fort Worth Airport, in Texas, is the eighth busiest airport in the world based on passenger traffic figures from 2009. It was American Airlines’ largest hub city, Qantas said.

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce said the new services were part of an expanded commercial relationship with American Airlines.

‘‘It will connect Qantas customers to one of the USA’s major hub airports, benefitting both business and leisure travellers,’’ Mr Joyce said in a statement.

Qantas said it would seek Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) approval for the two airlines to coordinate operations between Australia/New Zealand and the US.

‘‘It will give Qantas a stronger and more balanced network footprint in the United States and provide more choice and convenience for travellers,’’ Qantas said.

The new alliance would provide a ‘‘joint platform for the airlines to offer a daily service between Australia and Dallas/Fort Worth’’, Qantas said.

The ACCC last year approved Virgin Blue’s alliance with US-based Delta Air Lines on trans-Pacific services, but the tie-up was awaiting a final decision from the US Department of Transportation.

Qantas said it would stop flying to San Francisco, but city would remain part of the airline’s network as a codeshare destination.

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14 January 2011
Attention all Qantas and OCCA International Crew

QANTAS TO DALLAS

In a media release of 10am this morning, Qantas announced the cessation of San Francisco Flights. The last flight will depart San Francisco on 14th May 2011 and arrive in Sydney on 16th May 2011. I am sure you will all agree that San Francisco has been a Qantas Crew Favourite port for many years and it will be sorely missed on our network.

At the same time Qantas is announcing flights to Dallas Fort Worth, which will commence on Monday the 16th May 2011.

The flights will operate four (4) times a week Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. The route will be SYD/DFW/BNE/SYD and crewing arrangements have not been discussed at this stage however it will be operated by a 747-400 (three class) and the newly configured 747's will be deployed to that route when they come online.

Dallas Fort Worth is a significant OneWorld Hub for Qantas' partner American Airlines. It is also the fourth largest metropolitan area in the United States. Over 59 Million passengers travelled to DFW in 2009 with 59% of those passengers continuing onward to other destinations.

Qantas will also increase frequency of its Los Angeles-New York Service from six times per week to daily from June 2011.

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In regards to what 'ANCDU' said about Oakland, you'd want to partner with someone in the US then, wouldn't you? A quick look at the Oakland site Oakland International Airport: Airline Information shows plenty of airlines flying from there but they'd want to be in the 'Oneworld' family I would have thought?

From The Herald Sun, 5th Jan 2010: Etihad tips a major boost down under | Herald Sun

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Etihad and Qantas were at odds over the Australian national carrier's plans to send Jetstar into the Middle East.

So does this allow JQ to fly to the mainland as ANCDU said and without upsetting AA?

A Poorly Kept Secret

This has been on the cards for months.
When SFO was excluded from the Tourism Australia roadshow through Amercia last year the writing was on the wall.
Lets hope it doesnt out to be a mistake....again

No more LAX Airport
What a mess that airport is.
Uh Oh hope DFW is better.
Better have a gander

DFW sooo much better!

DFW wx sucks though! :uhoh:

Dallas to Brisbane should test the range a bit.

Can anyone in the know describe roughly what the set up costs are for a new port? I'm guessing there is a break-even point given a certain load factor for say 3,6 or 12 months?

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Jetstar will start flying into Oakland within the year, they have to send their next 3 330's somewhere! As usual they will need to pull QANTAS off the destination to make the Jetstar flights viable.

Ah yes, of course, Jetstar. :rolleyes:

Otherwise known as Qantas's very own pet, "strangler fig".

It climbs slowly up around and over to the point of completely enveloping a viable and entirely healthy tree, slowly but inextricably strangling it to death.

In the mean time those running SQ, EH, CX, BA, VB, Air NZ and the like just piss themselves laughing. :ugh::ugh::ugh:

Are the upcoming 330's not going to Singas now?

Amazing!!

The two gay capitals of the world and QF abandons the route - I almost said "pulls out" but restrained myself!!!

Hasn't QF management heard of the Pink Dollar???

DFW will be a challenge in the TS season!! Good for overtime though.

Who is going to operate SFO->SYD now ?

One thing from a SLF : I'm booked with Qantas to fly SFO->SYD at the end of June 2011. Does anyone have any idea who will operate that sector from May for Qantas ticket holders ? [Please don't say American...]

Cheers in advance

Hoofie...

at best you'll get put on SYD-LAX and provided with a shuttle ticket LAX-SFO.

second best you'll be able to redeem your booking on a SYD-LAX flight and walk there.

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at best you'll get put on SYD-LAX and provided with a shuttle ticket LAX-SFO.

Cheers Goat Whisperer.

Bugger. We fly into LAX from Hawaii and then spend a week wandering around the west coast and San F.

I don't want to then have to fly back to bloody LAX and then get LAX to SYD.

Methinks I'll wander down to the travel agents tomorrow.

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Latestar perhaps ??

If you live in PER for example and dislike LAX and SYD you can avoid both by flying DFW/NRT/PER using a JAL/QF connection.
Good Connections from South America and Europe to OZ.
Would the A380 have the legs to do DFW/SYD?

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Would the A380 have the legs to do DFW/SYD?

Yes, but not with a viable load.

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Originally Posted by surfside6

Would the A380 have the legs to do DFW/SYD?

Not sure DFW is A380 capable/accredited, memory is faded a bit but the everything needs widening to prevent FOD to the outboard engines and there are other issues with passenger egress etc.

Good news !!! , but i have also heard that the LAX -JFK Route is going to reviewed and could be given the punt as they can now use AA codeshare easier from DFW ... must have more flights to JFK than LAX?