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THRidle 28th Aug 2010 06:53

Hey guys, can we get away from the 330 Vs 777 ( my dad can beat your dad ) syndrome and back to the "Vibe" of this thread. :ok:

inandout 28th Aug 2010 07:48

So more than two 330 coming to VB for domestic and more 737 into Asia from Australia. The latter not sure if that's for VB or PB.
Any one like to call who the tie will be in Asia. I guess it would have to be out of Darwin, Perth or Cairns or all three.
Smart moves from JB so far.
Consolidation for VA.

airtags 28th Aug 2010 08:07

Back to the topic and forgetting the perpetual bus v boeing debate....

Vaus pulls out of its short hop routes & Africa,
- Virgin Holdings Limited who in applications refers to itself as the Virgin Group, uses its Pacific Blue Aust P/L entity to apply for capacity on other routes such as Indonesia, using the generic name 'Pacific Blue Airlines'.

With the bulk of 737 international flying being done by DJ under an intercompany wet leases that also includes Pac Blue NZ, it would appear that a full re-branding may well be higher on the agenda than indicated.

Also quite a bit of movement on the share front. - let's hope it all means jobs for Australian pilots and crew ..................and the JQ disease does not spread.

AT
:E

Mr. Hat 28th Aug 2010 08:12

Normasars, already worked in trade - thanks but no thanks. Not my cup of tea.

ETOPS-180 29th Aug 2010 07:47

A330-2 v A330-3
 
Just remember kiddies that the A332 goes a lot further then a A333, remember QF making that mistake..l can see JB going into asia with these scarebus's, don't QF do AKL-LAX in the A332 just think about that couch riders :ugh:

Mr. Hat 29th Aug 2010 08:00

Make sure you have a crew rest. Not like the old J Class seat jobby!

ETOPS-180 29th Aug 2010 08:07

Mr Hat a Bet
 
I bet you they WON'T have a tech crew rest, l bet a slab of beer the winner's choice..l'm quessing Asahi beer....:ok:

Oldmate 29th Aug 2010 08:08

As a first move for JB I think it shows he has done some homework and given some serious thought to what might make money.

Is Voz planning to operate east cost Australia to Abu Dhabi in competition to the current Ethihad services, or is some kind of consolidation planned there?

Red Jet 29th Aug 2010 10:13


Oldmate says....... or is some kind of consolidation planned there?
It is a full codeshare being planned, with VOZ operating 3 weekly services from Sydney to Abu Dhabi, and Etihad operating 9.

From Feb. 2012, 3 weekly services (operated by aircraft 6 for VOZ) between BNE & Abu Dhabi is announced.

Not the most exciting destination for the Crew, but should make V Australia financially viable and increase the chances that the 6 aircraft options will be exercised in the future. The distance from Australias East Coast to the Middle East is ideal for the -300ER, being the same as Sydney - LAX.

VBPCGUY 29th Aug 2010 10:53

What is freight like between AUH-SYD/BNE??? On any further deliveries are they increasing the size of the rear hold door to take larger pallets, or that cant be changed?

porch monkey 29th Aug 2010 23:24

Can't really change it now. No more VB wetleasing for PB, (or so they hope). For those who don't think some will crawl over broken glass for the widebody, keep watching. The positioning has already started.......:ugh:

The The 29th Aug 2010 23:45

Anyone know why DJ chose A330-200's rather than the 300's?

It doesn't seem like they are planning on any real long-range flying where it would require the range of the 200's.

I would have thought the 300's would be better for domestic ops with the higher pax capacity.

Is it just down to availability of the 200's?

It also appears QF like the 200's better for domestic ops as the newest domestic config A330's are all 200's. Better resale perhaps?

1a sound asleep 30th Aug 2010 00:43

A330-200's are cheaper than the 300 - both in leasing costs and fuel burn. They are versatile and can be used on different routes if needed. They are closer to the 763 that they initially looked at - Way easier to make money with the 200 than the 300

markis10 30th Aug 2010 01:12

Wonder where they are going to part the heavies when they get to PER, bays 600/601?

AirborneSoon 30th Aug 2010 01:35

I'm pretty convinced that domestic ops will not be the only use for these new babies. If you can't buy lots of aircraft then you'll want to make sure the ones you do buy are multi-use. Medium haul international will be my guess. A hop over to Perth then next stop SE Asia.:ok:

Anthill 30th Aug 2010 02:21

This recent code-share strategy is similar to that adopted by Ansett 15 years ago, with some success. Ansett entered into a set of code share agreements with United, Air NZ, ANA and Malaysia so as to counter the QF/BA tie-up and gain a greater share of business travel; QF having the obvious advantage in size of overall network.

halas 30th Aug 2010 08:23

Anthill, That's probably one of the main reasons why AN sank, or were sunk.

halas

Mr. Hat 30th Aug 2010 09:11

ah the old VB AN comparison,

Let me guess should just stick with 73's and nothing else. Here we go..

topend3 30th Aug 2010 10:26


Wonder where they are going to part the heavies when they get to PER, bays 600/601?
I think T3 may be getting a reconfiguration with wide-body aerobridges. Will have to, as there is nowhere else to park them...


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