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Ken Borough 14th Sep 2010 05:40

Apart from Defence, I think a couple of Federal Govt departments (Immigration and PM's??) also use one of the name entities to source charter aircraft.

Surely an organisation the size of the Govt and with the expertise it has within, one would have to ask why it's necessary to go through third parties to secure charter aircraft? The money some people are profiting from the Govt would be enough to hire a dozen or so aviation experts to do this necessary work at a considerable saving and benefit to the taxpayer.

The bloke from the Fairfax group (SMH and THe Age) obviously has some good contacts but I hope he can dig deeper as the txpayer is far frm well served. Business as usual?.

3 Holer 14th Sep 2010 06:59


the size of the Govt and with the expertise it has within
Government and expertise in the same sentence is your classic oxymoron!

topend3 14th Sep 2010 07:17

Apparently the loads on the BNE-PHE-DPS sectors are woeful...

cyclone8888 14th Sep 2010 08:20

According to this article the French DGAC has revoked Strategic's AOC today.

It is in French so you will need to use a translator

Tour Hebdo - site officiel - Transport : Strategic Airlines clouée au sol par la DGAC

In any case things are not looking good all round.

d_concord 14th Sep 2010 10:11

3 Holer,

I think you will find it is not Cobham.

This will be the beginning of the end for both these organisations. Can't say I will be sorry to see it happen but feel for any staff that are just innocent parties.

Red Jet 14th Sep 2010 10:36

Google Translation of French Article
 
AIR Airlines Strategic pinned down by the DGCA Published 9/13/2010 1:00:00 p.m. | The two Airbus A320 Strategic Airlines should remain on the ground starting Wednesday, the AOC maturing on that date . The Directorate General of Civil Aviation did not wish to renew, the company does not meet the standards required. Strategic Management of Airlines we contacted, admits that his documentary responses were requested by the civil aviation but swears that flight safety is assured. The flights scheduled in the coming weeks - 200 hours per aircraft per month - could have an impact on programs of tour operators who have hired this company. The double cross of Lyon on July 11 last flight STZ 621 of the company Strategic Airlines flights to Tenerife - and especially his way of managing - has certainly been the trigger for such non-renewal of AOC. Chartered by Fram, the flight could not leave on Saturday morning after a hydraulic problem. On Sunday morning, it detected a crack on the windshield, and necessitating its replacement has again delayed the departure of the aircraft. The two A320s are among the first built and had once stolen the colors of Air Inter. Strategic Airlines, subsidiary of an Australian startup that won contracts for transportation of personnel from the Australian Army in its overseas operations (Middle East, Afghanistan), has received his permit to fly August 13, 2009. She wanted to address both medium-haul network than long-haul Airbus A330 aircraft with an announcement for this winter. T.V.

elpilotofrances 14th Sep 2010 12:17

when you know the maintenance is done by ...air france industries

Tango9 14th Sep 2010 14:13

Yet another article on this matter....
 
ADF charter contract referred to AFP | Australian Aviation Magazine

down3gr33ns 15th Sep 2010 05:23

evilC,

Just thought you'd liketo know that the 737 you claimed Our Airline "had sold to pay their bills" is back operating on the Norfolk route.

CASA wbsite doesn't indicate any ownership change - maybe you could clarify matters?

cyclone8888 15th Sep 2010 06:06


evilC,

Just thought you'd liketo know that the 737 you claimed Our Airline "had sold to pay their bills" is back operating on the Norfolk route.

CASA wbsite doesn't indicate any ownership change - maybe you could clarify matters?
Good luck getting a response to that D3G - unless it endearing to Mr evilC or indeed strategic he wont offer a response :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

MyNameIsIs 15th Sep 2010 12:38


he wont offer a response
He sounds similar to "blackbandit".
It is nearly a year on since his predictions of doom and gloom in "October". Guess he was wrong?


Back to Strategic.
topend3, I hear similar things.

Going Nowhere 15th Sep 2010 21:56

Announced BNE-TSV-DPS from Dec. :ugh:

Fly direct to Bali for only $199 | Townsville Bulletin News

topend3 15th Sep 2010 23:02

This is the problem for them - doing intl out of some regionals isn't a bad idea, but they have to get the aircraft there - most likely close to empty as most of the punters between bne-tsv will hop on the established carriers...

F111 15th Sep 2010 23:10

Why did Alliance stop flying pax between BN and TL about 4 years ago, the numbers weren't there to support 4 airlines.

witwiw 15th Sep 2010 23:48


Announced BNE-TSV-DPS from Dec.
IASC Determination 106 does not allow Strategic to carry pax between BNE and Indonesia. They would take a dim view of SA trying to carry BNE pax via TSV in an effort to circumvent the Determination.

As for domestic pax between these points - F111's post says it all.

Skystar320 16th Sep 2010 00:31

Well thats new, even to the government body [that is unless they havnt upload it to IASC]

ebt 16th Sep 2010 01:47

The IASC will likely have little to say because they want to encourage international services from regional centres, and the White Paper has put forward as policy that carriers who serve regional centres as an intermediate stop before a major gateway port won't have that counted in their allocations under the various bilaterals. If anything, it boosts their case for gaining more allocation on the hotly contested Indonesia route as they are showing their commitment to the market. Whether it works or not is another story.

Strategic already have authorisation for unlimited capacity to Indonesia from points other than Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne and Perth under IASC Determination 106, so nothing underhanded there.

Heavy Cargo 16th Sep 2010 05:20

Unlimited capacity from ports OTHER than SYD/MEL/BNE/PER to from Indonesia. Pax must originate from TVL for example:cool:.

ANstar 16th Sep 2010 06:23

Strategic Airlines (France) to lose its AOC

Strategic France loses its AOC. PResumably the 2 x 320's will come back to Australia

cyclone8888 16th Sep 2010 06:31


Strategic France loses its AOC. PResumably the 2 x 320's will come back to Australia
To do what?? Gather dust??


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