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woody744 30th Jun 2010 01:25

Jetstar domestic LF down 7%
 
Latest may figures reveal that Jetstar domestic load factors have lost 7% compared to may last year. Even though ASKs have risen sharply, overall passenger numbers have decreased. Is this a result of VB or Tiger making inroads or people heading back to mainline?

Discuss...

plainmaker 30th Jun 2010 02:22

Passenger Numbers
 
:uhoh: Perhaps Capt K's 'rubbery figures' expose of a couple of months ago about the Jetstar numbers has brought about a conscience attack.:=

Reports to the relevant authorities may now be a bit more believable:D

Plainmaker

dizzylizzy 30th Jun 2010 02:47

How long was the 767RR fleet renewed for?

rammel 30th Jun 2010 03:04

I also heard a rumour that QF is looking at going back to OOL ex SYD and MEL, and also LST ex SYD and MEL.

rmcdonal 30th Jun 2010 03:35

QLink already do LST ex MEL.

Sunstar320 30th Jun 2010 08:44

J* also grounded over 7 A320's during May. Just imagine if they ran a normal schedule, 50% LF's would go down well.



Is this a result of VB or Tiger making inroads or people heading back to mainline?
Its purely a result of Tiger being 50% bigger than last year and way too much capacity in the market in such a dead period, especially Gold Coast which had a going rate of 70pax for most flights.

who_cares 30th Jun 2010 08:54

Looks like mainline will inherit the 4 classics from Jetconnect

Angle of Attack 30th Jun 2010 10:42

From January next year new 800's with IFE systems are being delivered to replace the classics. But I have heard the Classics retirement is being deferred, they need more airframes and the flying is building fast!

PPRuNeUser0198 30th Jun 2010 10:44

May is usually soft.

The market is relatively saturated with capacity. Due to GFC, LCC's enjoyed greater then normal patronage as price drove consumer choice.

As the economy is rebounding, full-service traffic is returning. Premium traffic is also returning quickly and levels are already pre GFC for Qantas. This will in-turn soften LCC demand and with the market over-capacity, naturally SF will weaken...

Tiger and Virgin will also be feeling the pressure. Considering Virgin reduced their profit forecast twice, it's obvious the financial impact we're already seeing...

Good to see Qantas however maintaining their forecast...

ymlt2 30th Jun 2010 13:31

Jetstars loads are certainly down (not helped when they swap & change the schedule around every month and drop flights) But then VB's loads are down a bit to, lots of 700's coming in lately.


I also heard a rumour that QF is looking at going back to OOL ex SYD and MEL, and also LST ex SYD and MEL.
I would be very surprised if QF mainline were to come back here, the LST - MEL route seems to be serviced reasonably well by the Dash 8.

Bula 30th Jun 2010 21:12

There has been softening of the leisure market more then usual around this time of year, hence VBs profit downgrades.... I wouldn't get to excited.

Keg 1st Jul 2010 00:51


I also heard a rumour that QF is looking at going back to OOL ex SYD and MEL, and also LST ex SYD and MEL.
Also been hearing the same thing. The reason being proffered is that with DJ introducing a 'proper' J class in the short to medium term, QF will need to offer a premium product into OOL where we don't currently.

I agree that load factors have been great recently although it is the beginning of school holidays around the place so perhaps that has a bit to do with it.

Velikiye Luki 1st Jul 2010 07:59


I also heard a rumour that QF is looking at going back to OOL ex SYD and MEL, and also LST ex SYD and MEL.
Come on, where on earth are you getting that idea from?

MyerFlyer 1st Jul 2010 10:47

Hi,

Guys lets not get carried away!

Virgin Blue also reported lower load factors for the same period:

Virgin Blue’s domestic load factors fall in May | Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation - CAPA

However it seems QF and JQ are adding more capacity than both Virgin and Tiger.

I wonder what Virgins current market share is?

Cheers


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