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Artificial Horizon 4th Jun 2010 00:14

Jetstar to Expand in NZ..... with longhaul
 
Looks as though Jetstar will be needing a few of the new cadets in NZ.

"Later this year, Jetstar will base a 7th A320 aircraft in New Zealand with the flexibility to operate on domestic or international routes from its existing NZ ports.

A 7th positioned A320 will create around 50 new airline jobs for Jetstar’s NZ operations in Pilot, Cabin Crew, Engineering and Airport Customer Services areas, growing to beyond 300 jobs.

In addition, Jetstar is currently considering deployment of two-class A330-200 aircraft to support the launch of first time value based long haul Jetstar international services to New Zealand."


It would appear the rumours of two A330's to be based in AKL could well be correct with rumours of SFO and Vancouver. Interesting times ahead.

Taildragger67 4th Jun 2010 04:16

Could a 332 do AKL-SFO??

Offchocks 4th Jun 2010 04:32

Taildragger67

Should not be a problem, the great circle distance is only 12nm longer than AKL-LAX which QF will be doing shortly with an A330.

CI300 4th Jun 2010 07:04

QF has been doing AKL-LAX-AKL with the 330.
Shame about the cargo offloads. Very unhappy freight types.

mohikan 4th Jun 2010 10:53

A while back Joyce denied that JQ would ever operate longhaul to the US. At the time I commented on this forum that once that was said it was a certainty to happen.

The AKL-SFO is the beginning of course. AKL-LAX will follow not long after, especially after the route has been proven by the red tail A330 (easier for ETOPS ect ect - not that there is anything special about the route, or QF flying it)

F***** me, sometimes I wish they would just wind up QF and make it all Jetstar and just get it over with :(

ZK-NSJ 4th Jun 2010 11:11

how about auckland/christchurch-perth

TMAK 7th Jun 2010 12:11

mohikan...dont worry just yet....its not SFO (well this time at least)...not PER either....

cavemanzk 8th Jun 2010 08:36

My bet would be SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL-SYD.

Chocks Away 8th Jun 2010 08:46

Heard this from the Townsville refueler:

Now called the "Cane toads", instead of "Porn-star"... always moving in on (shadowing) established territory (no innovation). :D:}

mattyj 8th Jun 2010 09:01

So will the CTC cadets learn NZ rules or CASA rules?

puff 8th Jun 2010 11:18

Don't forget Singapore and Vietnam air law !

Who says you can earn millions in JQ you'll just need to be Vietnam based paid in Dong!

scon 9th Jun 2010 03:21

Jet* just announced AKL-SIN from March 17 next year........

B772 9th Jun 2010 03:35

Scon. You are correct; being operated by a SIN based a/c and crew.
a Daily SIN-MEL-SIN service is due to commence on 16 December 2010; operated by a SIN based a/c and crew.

fender 9th Jun 2010 03:54

excellent news

skybed 9th Jun 2010 04:03

There is more
 
Jetstar to fly from Singapore to Melbourne, AucklandWednesday, 9 June 2010

Singapore will soon have its first long haul low fare airline, with Jetstar planning to launch daily direct services to Melbourne and Auckland from its Singapore hub.

Subject to regulatory approval, the carrier will start a daily direct Singapore- Melbourne return service from December 16 this year using two wide body A330s.

It will then launch a daily direct Singapore-Auckland return service from March 17 next year. Qantas will codeshare on the new routes.

Jetstar Chief Executive Officer Bruce Buchanan said the connecting of the carrier’s three largest operations in Australia, New Zealand and Singapore would strengthen each of the businesses and build a solid foundation for future growth beyond Singapore to North Asia and Europe.

Sale fares for Melbourne – Singapore flights are available today between 5pm to 7pm and tomorrow between 5am to 5pm.

drop bear ten 9th Jun 2010 04:37

And not long after that expect SIN-PER (to complement QF), AKL-PER (against ANZ daily service. Heaps of Kiwis working in WA)

slamer. 9th Jun 2010 09:18

Jetstar launches daily Akl - Singapore flights


http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webconte...g/jet-2201.jpg

Low-cost airline Jetstar is launching a new daily direct service between Auckland and Singapore in time for the Rugby World Cup.
The new service will begin on March 17 next year and introductory fares could be as low as about $100 one way.
Jetstar says its standard fares on its daily direct services will be lower than the only carrier on the same route, Singapore Airlines.
Airline executive manager of operations Mark Dal Pra said it will start selling seats within the next fortnight. Although he could not say what fares would be, the airline launched a Melbourne-Singapore service today with a limited number of promotional seats at A$99 (NZ$122) one way.
As with its New Zealand domestic and transtasman services passengers will have to pay extra for food and entertainment and depending on the type of fare, there will be charges for bags.
An Airbus A330-200 will be used on the route with StarClass business class on offer.
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Dal Pra said its StarClass was typically the same price as other carriers' full fare economy seats.
Jetstar chief executive Bruce Buchanan said the new flights offered travellers "an array of new affordable travel options".
"Connecting our three largest operations in Australia, New Zealand and Singapore strengthens each of these businesses and builds a solid foundation for future growth beyond Singapore to North Asia and Europe," he said.
Today's news comes just days after Jetstar said it was adding an A320 airbus to its fleet and was announced on the eve of the first anniversary of their entry into the New Zealand domestic market.
The new service is subject to regulatory approval.
The new Jetstar services will support major New Zealand tourism initiatives including the 2011 Rugby World Cup, said Dal Pra.
Jetstar will base two wide-body Airbus A330-200 aircraft in Singapore. They are configured to carry 303 passengers in a two-class cabin.
Last month Continental Airlines announced it was planning direct flights between Auckland and Houston five times a week beginning November 2011.
That service will use the airlines new Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft.
Auckland Airport chief executive Simon Moutter said the latest announcement would not only benefit New Zealand tourism and trade but would provide New Zealand travellers with greater choice.
"This news is very consistent with our own Asian tourism growth ambitions.
"Auckland Airport had recently signalled to the market an intention to invest further into building sustainable high growth markets out of Asia."
The announcement provided just some of the extra capacity the airport needed to achieve this goal, Moutter said.

RFN 9th Jun 2010 11:05

ADL-SIN-ADL probably next...

apache 9th Jun 2010 11:38

why oh why the NZ govt will approve this is beyond me!

mattyj 9th Jun 2010 14:04

how can they not aprove it? They didn't stop Singapore airlines doing SIN-AKL-SIN when AirNZ was doing it either...?

For that matter they didn't stop pepsi from selling cola when coke was already selling cola as well!

dodgybrothers 9th Jun 2010 16:22

The CP of JQ is possibly the greatest villain in all of this. He has the power to stand up and say no, this will not happen but like his previous exploits he chooses to allow his fellow pilots to fall down around him. Have some spine you weak bastard, have a look what you are doing to the profession. Even the head of the authority is asking for professional standards to be upheld, yet CPs such of yourself are allowing this disgraceful practise to continue and rip the guts out a once proud profession.

And for the rest of you that will accept this as the norm, long may you rot.

Tempo 9th Jun 2010 17:48


The CP of JQ is possibly the greatest villain in all of this. He has the power to stand up and say no, this will not happen
Which CP are you talking about? The Singapore, New Zealand or Australian one. It does not matter as this is way above any CP. This is not some single aircraft GA operation. Since when does the CP of an airline dictate the route structure?

markis10 10th Jun 2010 02:15

Why are the ex SIN services to MEL and AKL operating under different flight numbers, MEL is JQi while AKL 3K?

Taildragger67 10th Jun 2010 06:09

JQ = Jetstar (Australia) AOC

3K = Jetstar Asia AOC

I'd suggest that Australia does not have traffic rights between Singapore and NZ, so those flights would be on the AOC of the Singapore entity (3K).

What might be interesting to know, is where the A330s will be registered - VH- or 9V-.

Maybe 3K will charter the hulls for the AKL runs from JQ; otherwise could get messy with a mix of VH- and 9V- registered hulls.

Dash1 10th Jun 2010 09:16

And when will the JQ Singapore crew and JQ Auckland crew start operating domestically in Australia? As soon as the cadets start coming on line. Single pilot interuptions.

Going Boeing 10th Jun 2010 16:14

AIPA trying to protect Jetstar Australia pilot jobs
 
Jetstar's expansion irks Qantas pilots
Steve Creedy From: The Australian June 11, 2010 12:00AM

QANTAS pilots are seeking legal advice about Jetstar's move to expand long-haul flying offshore, labelling it an attempt to avoid Australia's employment laws.

Jetstar is considering using New Zealand as a base to fly to the US and Japan after yesterday unveiling Singapore as its first long-haul destination from Auckland and detailing plans to fly a Singapore-based Airbus A330 to Melbourne.

The announcements are part of the airline group's pan-Asian network strategy.

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce said the addition of long-haul services in New Zealand should strengthen Jetstar's brand.

The airline will start two-class daily A330-200 services between Singapore and Melbourne from December 17 and plans to begin flying from Auckland to the Southeast Asian hub next year.

The Australian and International Pilots Association, which represents pilots in both Qantas and Jetstar, is already taking legal action about Qantas moves to take jobs offshore and has reacted angrily to the latest moves.

"Understandably, we are very concerned that Qantas, through its offshoot Jetstar, is offshoring more Australian jobs," AIPA said.

"The association . . . was not consulted about this development," AIPA acting president David Backhouse said. "It is clearly unfair that Qantas and other employers avoid Australian rates of pay and conditions of employment by setting up operations offshore to fly into Australia."

Mr Backhouse said attempts to raise the concern with the Workplace Relations Minister, Julia Gillard, had been ignored.

"Yet again we call on the federal government to ensure that big business can no longer avoid Australia's employment laws," he said "Regardless, we are monitoring this situation closely, will seek clarification from Qantas and will take appropriate action."

TMAK 12th Jun 2010 00:10

I think Taildragger is correct and different flight numbers refer to which airline owns/controls/has rights etc to the respective routes. From memory I think there may be an open skies type deal between NZ & SIN?? So 3K would have fairly easy access to that route, which SIA does twice daily already from memory? JQ getting additional rights SIN-Aus should not be hard given the vast scale that SIA currently has over QF now.

The a/c from my humble understanding will both be on JQ AOC albeit based in SIN, so tech crew will be most likely from Aus as they would need Aus ATPL (does this sound logical?). Cabin of course likely to be largely from JQ existing cabin crew base in SIN....which one would assume needs to grow?


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