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Whiskey Oscar Golf 11th May 2010 13:49

Nah Aerocat, I was hampered by F&D's but it was DS who is now the "white flash". Must have looked pretty good to see him jump the fence. His lightning run from the club saved the day.

AerocatS2A 11th May 2010 14:19

Ha ha! Classic. The mental image...

CSTGuy 12th May 2010 01:34

FYI the A319 is parked at Perth Airport. So a good assumption would be that, yes, the Antarctic plane, with the rear stairs fitted, is the culprit.:ok:

apacau 12th May 2010 03:05

From Flight Global and reported on another board:


Skytraders Chief Pilot and Director of Operations Terry Vickers confirms his company's A319 (above) was the aircraft involved in the Sunday incident at Cocos Islands off the northwestern coast of Australia. "There was a human error at the issue in closing the door which was combined with an erroenous cockpit indicator. The indicator in the cockpit said the stairs were retracted and the doors were closed," Vickers says.

During the cabin door closing procedure the stairs at the front left-hand side of the aircraft were left deployed and a cockpit warning indicator failed to alert the crew to the problem. Vickers explains that in normal operation, "You get an error in the cockpit if you start the engines with the stairs not retracted."

Vickers says the crew taxied at Cocos Islands airport for 50-100 metres before a flight attendant, "who could hear the the noise of the stairs scraping along," alerted the pilots to the problem. Vickers says that despite media reports he is not aware of ground personnel or onlookers rushing to the aircraft to alert the crew to the problem. Nor did the aircraft attempt to take off with the stairs deployed, Vickers adds.

Flight Detent 12th May 2010 03:14

Hey Neptunus Rex....

your "About 400 nm north, but thousands west!" ..from Cocos,

should make him around about the Diego Garcia area, shouldn't it?

Since when has there been a refueler at Cocos?

I to spent quite a few overnights at Cocos in the late 70s and 80s, during my time in the RAAF P3 squadrons.
We actually had to do an engine change there once, which eventually had two P3s and two C-130s there at the same time...very busy!

Cheers...FD...:)

Capn Bloggs 12th May 2010 03:33


Since when has there been a refueler at Cocos?
Ever since this bloke moved there:

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w...bloggs/cck.jpg

:ok:

Green gorilla 12th May 2010 04:44

Thats the only reason I got back to the mainland the last time I landed at Cocos.

SRM 12th May 2010 08:15

Never had an overnight in Cocos in the 727 days, but had some great parties in Per after the flight.;)

CaptR 12th May 2010 08:36

Least the airstairs won't move much when their feet are on the ice anymore now they have been sharpened up a bit - would have been interesting to see that occur down south - if damaged the Airbus could have become a permenent new hut on the ice - lovely!!!!!

josephfeatherweight 12th May 2010 09:46

Yes, the details are quite sketchy at the moment (and more than likely somewhat "media embellished") - however, the decision to simply retract the stairs and continue (without maintenance inspection - I assume) will surely raise a few questions in the investigation.

Rudder 12th May 2010 11:13

I know the chief pilot quite well and while I haven't spoken to him about this I understand they always fly with an engineer so it is likely that it was inspected.

If I read this right and based on the FlightGlobal Blog. From the first post here .. Rear stairs - wrong, aborted take off with stairs extended - wrong, 120 pax -wrong. Got to love the press ..great theatre. You have to wonder what else is wrong.

At its core this is clearly not something that should have happened.

Interesting in that it does show that you really have to be careful with what people witness and then say they saw and what they actually do see in the stress of the moment. This is of course giving the journalist no credit for poetic licence!!

YPJT 16th May 2010 03:11

So no one had a UNICOM radio or safety vehcle tuned to CTAF?:ugh: If something like this did indeed occur then questions need to be asked about the levels of training and competence of ground handlers. That's what happens when amateurs are allowed to run airports.
Not unlike the recent stair incident that occurred at the rock.

Capt Fathom 16th May 2010 05:44


So no one had a UNICOM radio or safety vehcle tuned to CTAF
Because it's such a busy CTAF, their transmissions were blocked.....:E

Whiskey Oscar Golf 16th May 2010 12:10

There may, be more to this than meets the eye. The ESIR's are in and no doubt the full truth will come out from the reliable eyewitnesses, including the odd LAME, the airport manager (who did get on the radio) and some aircrew,(ASIC holders and allowed to enter and walk the hardstand when attempting to alert pilots of a hazard) who all saw the whole drama played out, then walked the taxiway and strip after the aircraft had left.

Regards

Red Jet 16th May 2010 12:16


the decision to simply retract the stairs and continue (without maintenance inspection - I assume) will surely raise a few questions in the investigation.
Don't assume anything- Skytraders don't go anywhere without an engineer onboard! It would have been dealt with properly, and damage was negligible anyway.

hussler 18th May 2010 01:49

Slightly off topic but does anyone have in info on Skytraders?? I am particularly after minimum requirements and conditions. PM if you like. Thanks


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