Qantas Group A330 Changes
 

Hi all,

As you may know the QF group has at least 6 additional A332s that will begin to be delivered from NOV this year.

VH-EBO will be delivered new to QF in November with the new QF domestic config/product. VH-EBO will directly replace A332 VH-EBJ which will then move across to JQ. (VH-EBJ is the only QF domestic A330 that doesnt have the new seats/IFE)

VH-EBP onwards will all be delivered to Jetstar.

Now any news on the talk of SYD-MNL, SYD-HNL, and some AKL-LAX with a possible extension to JFK all going A330?

Should be a few spare A330s once the B744s take over the SYD-NRT-SYD route.....

Heard from a colleague who was speaking with a QF A330 management pilot recently that decisions were being made about whether to have fitted an underfloor cabin crew rest facility to two of these aircraft.

For the rumoured expansion of Onestar to Europe perhaps.......?

Onestar will NOT require a Crewrest facility!

Yes that had occurred to me too.

Jump seats in full view of passengers are perfectly adequate for the cabin crew to sit on.:yuk:

Who is paying for the 5 A332's that are going to JQI ? Not Jetstar I bet....

In fact, my mail is that the 'legacy carrier' is footing the bill, yet again...

Yes and the 744 boys and gals should not start getting toooo excited about the amount of drunken falls they will have down the Cage steps. Jokestar cannot replace a QF A330 route due to some bullsh*t agreement in place. Therefore the Irish pumper needs to have it replace a different type. Hence the 744, but for a wee time only now. I will bet my Scot left nut the orange disgrace will replace it before Xmas.

Why not just give CX rights to fly direct OZ to Japan rather than force all the punters to transit HK. Wouldn't that be more logical:cool:

Orange cancer continues to spread......love it!:ok:

Ditch,

Would the underfloor CC rest not be required for AKL-LAX?

No-one (in their right mind) is going to take that bet on!

Dutchroll, watch this space!!

Yes, but the FAAA give the company dispensation for that sector.

Has there been any updates on the Qantas Group A332s orders. Is Qantas still getting a new build in Q4 2010?

Plus when are deliveries suppose to begin of the new build Jetstar A332s.

I have good intel that the A330 will be pulled from AKL-LAX & LAX-JFK around the end of the year due pax (premium) feedback & freight considerations. 744 to resume these services. Another case of accountants thinking they know best :rolleyes:

Who is paying for the 5 A332's that are going to JQI ? Not Jetstar I bet....

In fact, my mail is that the 'legacy carrier' is footing the bill, yet again...


Last I heard the "Legacy" carrier owned Jet*...:}

T-Vasis, the premium loads of commercial pax on the LAX-JFK-LAX sectors was very high in the first half of the year (ie prior to the A332 being substituted) and it is this genuine business traffic that is upset at being shoe-horned onto an A332 which doesn't have First & Premium Economy cabins and the Business cabin which is a lot smaller. Also, there is a lot of freight that is not able to be carried due to the volumetric limits of the A332 hold - freight on that route is lucrative due to the low numbers of wide-body aircraft operating across the US.

TBM, the thing that pisses mainline staff off is the creative accounting (& lack of transparency) that senior Qantas Group executives use to make it look like Jetstar has lower costs per seat kilometre than its rivals. It certainly would make interesting reading to find out how Jetstars DOC's are dealt with in the "Groups accounts".

Wrt future A332 deliveries (the higher gross weight aircraft), they do not appear on the list of A330 deliveries on the QF Flight Crew website which would indicate that they are not planned to have Oz registrations. Previously, Jetstar management indicated that Jetstar Asia would be getting 2 A332's but I believe that they will be getting all 5 HGW versions which will enable them to operate the ATH & FCO routes as well as NRT etc.

Well I guess it makes sense... QF have 3 A380s due soon which will then free up 3 B744s to move back onto the AKL-LAX and LAX-JFK routes.

This will then free up intl A330s to be used else where. Joyce has already hinted at increasing services to Asia with HKG, PVG, and NRT all performing well.

From my own experience flying that route and from the LAX & JFK Airport Managers - the JFK Airport Manager didn't want the change in aircraft type but her superiors said that "it was going to save millions".

QF Commercial certainly considers them to be 'premium traffic'.

Boston Consulting Group is looking at every aspect of the Qantas operation trying to find ways to reduce costs - this was their idea but as is usual when people look only at the accounting figures, they come unstuck on operational matters (eg the ATI B767 Freighter operating across the Tasman - BCG didn't understand ETOPS requirements & that aircraft only has 60 mins single engine approval).

The other aspect of the A330 JFK ops is how many pax have we lost to the opposition on the AKL-LAX-AKL sectors? The B744 (2 class with 412 seats) had high average load factors on the route and now we operate the route with an aircraft with only 60% of the capacity.