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Jetstar forces wheelchair passenger to crawl across tarmac
Jetstar apologises over Fearnley incident
Nov 24, 2009 Jetstar has apologised to Paralympian Kurt Fearnley after he criticised the airline for making him check his personal wheelchair in with his luggage. Fearnley, a wheelchair marathon champion, says he chose to crawl through BrisbaneAirport rather than use an unsuitable chair offered by the airline. Jetstar spoke to Fearnley's senior manager this morning before issuing a public apology. In a statement, the airline said the complaint has been clarified and Jetstar would privately address the matter with Fearnley. "Jetstar apologises to Fearnley for any embarrassment and hurt that may have been caused as it was not intended," the statement said. "Our airline's policy for a passenger in a wheelchair being transported to and from a Jetstar aircraft, in the case of a self propelled chair, is that they are transferred from their own wheelchair into a specifically designed airline wheelchair at or near the boarding gate. " Fearnley slammed Jetstar last night after being separated from his wheelchair at Brisbane airport. He had just returned to the country after conquering the Kokoda Track. The 28-year-old claimed he had to crawl across the tarmac and through a bathroom after refusing to travel in a wheelchair provided by the budget airline. He said he was unfamiliar with how the supplied wheelchair operated. "I said there is not a chance that I am going to sit there and be pushed through an airport," Fearnley said. "An able-bodied equivalent, a normal person's equivalent would be having your legs tied together, your pants pulled down and be carried or pushed through an airport." Fearnley finished his gruelling Kokoda challenge last Wednesday after crawling ten days through the dense Papua New Guinea terrain in searing heat. The trek began just a week after the NSW athlete won his fourth consecutive New York wheelchair marathon. Fearnley, speaking at the National Disability Awards in Canberra last night, said Jetstar's rules took away a person with a disability's "right to chose". |
His achievements are nothing short of inspirational but in this situation he's acted like a tool.
Airline wheelchairs are supplied so the person's chair can be safely loaded in the cargo hold in time for departure. Also, normal chairs don't fit down the aisles in the aircraft. Jet* procedures are no different to any other airline at any other airport. |
Ah, no.
It seems from what I can gather that his chair was taken from him during the check in process. He was unable to make his own way to the aircraft in his own chair to have it taken at the aircraft door for hold stowage. This facility is routine for QF ops and people with these needs are understandably [very] protective of their wheel chairs. QF policy allows for the chair to be delivered at the door for the passenger on disembarkation. Their relief on seeing it again is more often than not, palpable. All thanks to those helpful ramp staff fellows.:ok: This is for international ops. Domestic may differ......... |
Good on him for trying to to independent but there are times where you need others to help this also goes for able bodied passengers too.
there is not a chance that I am going to sit there and be pushed through an airport |
Ah, yes ditch
Domestic does differ. The flight was BNE-NTL. |
On the domestic (QLink services) I operate it is quite the norm to have the pax arrive at the aircraft in their own chair, transfer to a QF chair, into the lifting device, then vice versa on arrival.
Not all pax in wheelchairs arrive thus, but it is not uncommon. |
Jetstar forces wheelchair passenger to crawl across tarmac "Our airline's policy for a passenger in a wheelchair being transported to and from a Jetstar aircraft, in the case of a self propelled chair, is that they are transferred from their own wheelchair into a specifically designed airline wheelchair at or near the boarding gate. "This chair's design enables the best transfer of the passenger onto the aircraft and any manoeuvre within the aisle of the aircraft." |
Just saw the Jet* media conference on TV.
Very well handled by Jet* PR. Unreserved apologies is all any company can give in such circumstances. |
I heard him being interviewed on the radio this morning and he didn't articulate his case very well. He seemed upset about being required to use a 'generic vanilla' (to paraphrase some expression he used) wheelchair with 'little wheels' to get to the aircraft. He then compared that 'humiliation' to a person having their legs tied together at the ankles, then having their pants pulled down, and then being dragged through the terminal. Bizarre!
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From Jetstar's Website
Wheelchairs - At the airport All customers travelling with a wheelchair must check-in 2 hours prior to flights departing from a domestic terminal and 3 hours prior to flights departing from an international terminal. Jetstar provides customers with a wheelchair in which to transfer at check-in. Jetstar customer service staff will assist in the transfer into the wheelchair, using Jetstar's approved transfer method of slide boards and slide cloths. If required, a Jetstar customer service staff member will then escort a customer who requires wheelchair assistance from check-in through security to their boarding gate. If the customer is travelling with a carer/companion who is willing to escort the customer, a Jetstar customer service staff member will organise to meet the customer(s) at the boarding gate. Baggage: The customer's wheelchair must be checked-in as baggage. Wheelchairs or mobility aids are carried free of charge on Jetstar services and are carried in addition to the baggage allowances applicable to the customer's travel itinerary. When a customer has more than one wheelchair or mobility aid(s), the second mobility aid will be charged as excess baggage. This includes wheelchairs, electric wheelchairs and electric scooters. |
Daughter in law works for QF/BNE. She said he refused a wheelchair belonging to QF/JQ after his own went into the hold, due to being far to large for isle, and much to the horror of staff took off on his own to the John. Its called publicity, and as much as I admire the bloke, its a bit rich to blame JQ or any other airline for that matter, if you decide to go around a airport on all fours.:rolleyes:
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So it's standard practice to pull down the pants of wheelchair pax in Australia before they board?
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I agree what the man has achieved is inspirational and that it must be difficult to lose some of your independence by having to be pushed out to the aircraft, but seriously, to make this kind of scene really was uncalled for. And as for comparing it to being carried or pushed around with your pants down... give me a break.
Jetstar forces wheelchair passenger to crawl across tarmac He said he was unfamiliar with how the supplied wheelchair operated. Also, its a wonder how the media didnt find a way to turn this back on Qantas... everything else seens to be their fault! :} |
Like so many other customer service complaints in this industry, it would be avoided if pax read the back of their ticket or the terms and conditions when they book online.
Maybe after he reviews the terms and conditions the apologies will flow in the other direction... |
There seems to be some confusion about policy here. Jetstar required the pax to check in their Wheelchair at check in, while apparently their policy is pax can take wheelchairs to the boarding gate similar to QF and that includes domestic let you remain in your own chair all the way to the aircraft door then you make your way to the seat via aisle chair or assistance depending on the passengers mobility. I am pretty sure Virgin also do this. Ground staff put the chair in the hold then their own chair is there waiting for them at the aircraft door at destination. I don't think anyone is suggesting a passenger enters the aircraft in their own chair, no one does that besides it wouldn't fit!
Seems the groundstaff on this occasion improperly required him to check in the chair while policy is they can remain with it until boarding. |
Another whinger getting his 3 minutes of media fame!
Tough enough to crawl the Kokoda track but unable put up with ten minutes in a wheelchair specifically designed to fit within the confined spaces in an aircraft aisle. Australia has very enlightened policies for disabled people compared to most parts of the world. However, here is the real shocking and distressing news for Kurt. He is not going to be allocated an exit row seat as legislation requires able bodied persons (generally male) be given these seats to assist in opening exits in the event of an emergency. Should a serious emergency occur disabled people will be the last people flight attendants will attempt to assist from a burning aircraft. Should a disabled person attempt to get out of their seat to go to an exit, their fellow passengers (humans) will use them as stepping stones as they rush to get out. Does not how much you whinge, legislate or attend the Human Rights Commission that, by the very nature of the human is the way it will and has happened. Maybe should FA's be trained in Dwarf Tossing they may be better equipped to assist disabled pax!! DK |
Reminds me of a dwarf pax who asked to be seated at exit row....
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after such a heroic effort to walk the kokada track, he has made a goose of himself and others by going down this path.
he and others alike need to realise that the airlines have these procedures in place for a reason..... anyhow, i hope it doesn't detract from his amazing feat!! |
Self propelled chairs need to be prepared prior to loading , this would be the reason for taking at the check in. He would be provided someone form the airline to assist him from that point to the A/C if he was travailing alone . Made a big scene for PR
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What a wind up. The wheelchairs are taken at check in because of OH&S requirements that stop the loaders from taking the wheelchair from the gate, down stairs to the tarmac for loading.
This guy admits he was offered a wheelchair to the gate but declined. My information is that he did not crawl across the tarmac as the aircraft departed from an airbridge. |
If he is that good......... he could have walked to NTL :}
Why do the media give idiots like this the time of day :ugh: |
He's an idiot.
Never let the facts get in the way of a bloody good story. Mr and Mrs Today Tonight viewer will enjoy this one for sure. |
What a nob! Disabled or not
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Total drama queen, sad considering his other achievements.
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Maybe he expects the porters to carry his wheelchair down the rickety stairs on the aerobridge. Against OH&S rules and at the risk of another person injuring themselves and ending up disabled.
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ahhhh yes, in these wonderous times of political correctness, it would be refreshing to see a company come out and say exactly what every reasonable person is thinking -- "you were offered assistance, you declined and behaved like a goose, pull your head in."\
blah blah blah..... |
With all due respect what is all this nonsense about OH&S? Jetstars policy as is QF's as is DJ's is pax can go to the door of the aircraft with their own wheelchair and then make their way to the seat either assisted or with an Aisle Wheelchair. Obviously if he had an electric Wheelchair fair enough but this fact has not come out yet. They need to be checked in according to Dangerous Goods guidelines. I am not sure but looking at the pics in the media his chair appears to be a normal one (ie not electric). If that is the case Jetstar stuffed up by making him check in the chair when it is policy not to. Where did this OH&S stuff come from all airlines do it! (cary wheelchair from aerobridge to hold)
I stand to be corrected but my opinion to many fools are commenting on something they have no idea about. As a sidenote Jetstar have admitted the staff in BNE did not follow their policy and they are investigating, sheez! :ugh: From ABC News The airline is now trying to clarify why Fearnley was prevented from using his own wheelchair after checking in at Brisbane Airport. Normally disabled passengers are allowed to take their own wheelchairs to the gate before being transferred to the airline's wheelchair for boarding Jetstar's head of corporate relations, Simon Westaway, says the processing of the chair was done at the check-in rather than at the gate. |
Angle of Attack has hit the nail on the head.
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Whatever - the guy is a tool just looking for more publisity
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Missing Link, I am not normally a spelling Nazi but please..not only your post but check your location in your profile lol! :ok:
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Seems some reporter must have an axe to grind with Jetstar.
I saw the interview with the guy and as others have said, he is a tool, just after publicity. He was offered a Jetstar wheelchair, but decided to throw a tantrum because he wanted to use his own wheelchair (which actually looked more like a skateboard on steroids, than a wheelchair). Rather than use the supplied wheelchair, he decided to crawl to the seat on his own and make a huge scene, and whinge that he wasn't able to do whatever he wanted to do, and was forced to follow the rules! If it was me, I'd have banned him from the flight altogether as he is obviously a troublemaker. I saw the statistics, but I can't remember the actual number, they said they carry something like 700 wheelchair passengers a week, and this guy is the only one to have any issues. |
p.j.m
you can't be serious? Jetstar didn't follow policy with this pax's situation and he is a tool? If it was me, I'd have banned him from the flight altogether as he is obviously a troublemaker. He was offered a Jetstar wheelchair, but decided to throw a tantrum because he wanted to use his own wheelchair (which actually looked more like a skateboard on steroids, than a wheelchair). :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh: |
From Jet* Terms And Conditions
"Jetstar provides customers with a wheelchair in which to transfer at check-in"
If he read the terms and conditions there would have been NO confusion. :ugh: |
Because as previously stated Jetstar stuffed up! They should have allowed him to keep his wheelchair to the gate just like ALL other airlines. I don't know the full story, but from what I saw of the PAX making a fool of himself in the interview and what I did glean from the news (not from the media beatup) the airline did not do anything wrong, however the PAX took exception to not being allowed to have his own way, and use his own "special design" wheelchair. He's probably used to getting everything he wants due to his condition, and when he was set straight, he had a tantrum. Media having a slow day, think "airline vs cripple" = good headlines. |
Angle at least someone around here has some common sense.
As for the other fools, the wheelchair that he sits in when he is not in bed is a part of him not just a mode of transport. That chair which probably cost him a pretty penny means that he doesn't need even an aisle chair to get on board as he can probably self transfer from his chair to an aircraft seat anyway. Most aircraft doors are wide enough for any wheelchair to fit through. Especially the 737, a320 size ones. Possibly a similar fool like the ones here have taken his chair from him well before required by procedure whether that be anti-discrimination, OH&S or other. As for an evacuation chances are he would be off just as fast as the rest but he wouldn't be clutching his Gucci handbag as he went down the slide. As for the 700 wheelchairs per week 95% of those are elderly and probably have no trouble walking to the buffet if required but when they get to the airport its suddenly to far to walk. Some of you so called "professionals" need to get out in the real world from time to time. :ugh: |
Perhaps I shouldn't be but I have to admit to being a little stunned at the number of small minded idiots around here. :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:
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in your shoes....
p.j.m
Perhaps one day when you have some unfortunate accident or some other cause that restricts you in life to permanent use of a wheelchair, you may want to reread your post and see if you still agree with your 'considered opinion' . A wheelchair is a persons personal independence and mobility freedom. Grow up.... |
A wheelchair is a persons personal independence and mobility freedom This guys is obviously far more mobile than your average wheelchair user, in fact he even dragged himself along the Kokoda track under his own steam (NOT using a wheelchair) just to prove a point. He was offered an airline wheelchair - which is standard practice, but he chose to make a scene, and demand he get his own way, and do what he wanted. Sorry all you bleeding hearts, this guy is nothing more than a whinging troublemaker, and if I owned Jetstar I'd permanently ban him from flying on the airline ever again. |
I know of a passenger who advised Jetstar that they would need a wheel chair (broken foot). Jetstar said "sorry you can't travel on that flight because the quota of wheelchair passengers would be exceeded" - solution, travel the next day and pay the fare difference!!
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Was he given a conventional wheelchair to get to the gate or one specific for aircraft aisle's?
Ideally he would have been given a conventional wheelchair at check-in, which he could have then wheeled himself around the terminal and to the airbridge, then transfered to the aircraft wheelchair, which has no means to self-propel and are not as stable. |
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