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blow.n.gasket 18th Jun 2009 09:27

Does the travelling public know or care?
 
When is a Qantas service really a Qantas service????
It looks like a Qantas aeroplane,it's flown by pilot's in a Qantas looking uniform, surely it must be Qantas!
I wonder if the travelling public would think differently of JetConnect if they were made aware that one should not judge a book by it's cover.


The New Zealand Airline Pilot’s Association (NZALPA) has taken the Qantas Group to court in New Zealand to oppose the transfer of business from JetConnect to Jetstar New Zealand. The case is currently pending before the Employment Court in Auckland. The following has come to light during recent interim relief proceedings before the Court:

· JetConnect will commence expanded trans-Tasman services on 10 June 2009
.the New Zealand Airline Pilot’s Association (NZALPA) has taken the Qantas Group to court in New Zealand to oppose the transfer of business from JetConnect to Jetstar New Zealand. The case is currently pending before the Employment Court in Auckland. The following has come to light during recent interim relief proceedings before the Court:

· JetConnect will commence expanded trans-Tasman services on 10 June 2009”;
· This will involve “operating services on behalf of Qantas from Auckland, to a range of destinations in Australia”;
· as the new B737-800 aircraft arrive later this year, JetConnect will provide a greater frequency on the trans-Tasman routes”; and
· From 10 June 2009, JetConnect will operate exclusively on trans-Tasman routes with greater number of flights each week.”

All of the above should be considered in the light of Qantas’ media release on 14 April 2009 when it announced a revised profit forecast and “major response to deterioration in trading conditions.” The media release then continues to state that the “Key elements of the Qantas response” are:

“Network and route changes
· Qantas will ground up to 10 aircraft, but is determined to retain presence on key routes despite intense competition.
· Capacity reduction will occur by reducing frequency, rather than complete withdrawal from key markets.”

Considering this , one is faced with the obvious question: “Is the current downturn used as an excuse to transfer Qantas’ business to an offshore subsidiary?”

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peuce 18th Jun 2009 20:55

  1. NO
  2. No

I buys me cheap ticket from some company ... I get on a flying machine ... I get off at the other end!

airtags 18th Jun 2009 23:54

The bigger issue is the Fed Govt's blind approach to sticking aviation into these bilaterals that enables offshore operators to pick up local buisness and do Aussie crew out of a job by driving down T&C's.

These 'open skies' bilaterals are really about "taking pax from (Australia) rather than bring pax to" - it's a double gift for Operators as it still provides revenue and affords the benefits of sometimes less stringent labour and compliance regimes. While the transitioning of ops in NZ has cost benefits, it clearly has more to do with Australian opportunities.

The battle for NZALPA (or anyone for that matter) is that the real remedy lies in superior jurisdictions.

In terms of pax perceptions, let's face it QF premium pax on the Tasman routes have been given third world standards for their dollars anyway (ie., premium price to sit on an ageing 737 400 with no IFE except dodgy DVD's that leave even less room in the J class lockers for pax bags etc etc., or being stuffed into a 738).

It's all race to the bottom stuff and the public are being conditioned to accept it. Not a good outcome for anyone, but I don't think the public really care until the flight is canx or there's a problem/incident.....

AT

noip 19th Jun 2009 03:52

peuce,

You forgot to add ....... "probably" ...

N

Joker 10 19th Jun 2009 05:53

I guess what happens to British Airways in the next 90 days will answer a lot of this for all of us.

peuce 19th Jun 2009 06:34

noip,

Well, yes, just to tidy up:

I buys me cheap ticket from some company ... I get on a flying machine ... I takes me chances ...then, if the stars are all aligned, I gets orf at the other end!

tobzalp 19th Jun 2009 10:16

Fark, all this Jet Connect, Jet Star what ever stuff is obvious. Qantas reduce routes, the cheapies expand routes and eventuallly one disappaers and the other just paints their tails red. Sure it will take maybe 10 years but if anyone did not see it coming they must surely be smoking crack.:rolleyes:

blow.n.gasket 20th Jun 2009 10:12

I've heard about this smoking crack and just how addictive it is and what it can do to your faculties.
However I'm curious ,what does one do with the pubes?:bored:


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