Blood from a stone = minimal fuel
 

Whispers from the Townsville refueller suggest an unplanned diversion saw the jet arrive with min fuel. Lights at the destination, a northern capital city failed and Bloggs was advised to hold but not told why.

After squeezing the stone really hard Bloggs was advised no rwy lites and no idea of how long to rectification.

Shirly Bloggs should of been told straight up why there was a need to hold. Not be put in a position of almost arriving with less than min fuel! :eek:

I would agree, however this TL refueller is starting to sound like 'the common man' out of the play 'A man for all seasons.':E

"and don't call me Shirly"

five dogs, what is your (or rather, the Townsville refueller) definition of "min fuel" ?

Are you referring to mandatory reserves being intact as minimum fuel or enough fuel to taxi off the runway as minimum fuel? :confused:

What do you mean when you say ?

Are you saying the aircraft almost arrived at the aerodrome or almost had "min fuel" when it arrived ?

3 Holer, the refuellers cousin tells me that it landed with fixed reserve. the issue is that if'n Bloggs hadn't pushed for the reason for the delay and how long, he'd have held to a point where he landed with less than fr.

The refueller's second cousin tells me that on first being told of the reason for delay, Bloggs was advised that the techs were on the way and portable lites were being set up.

Next advice after holding for an unknown period was that there were no techs and no portable lites. :eek: :eek: :ugh:

I know this is a rumour network, but this sounds like it's stretching the definition a little!

What was the ETI to possible ALTN I wonder??......:ok:

And why hasn't Capt Bloggs been on here to explain himself???

J:ok:

Aircraft a few days later were told to hold due ''airport closure'' at the same northern destination. Disabled aircraft closed the runway and information was not forthcoming!

Too close to the truth, ya reckon Captain Sand Dune.

He's really got his finger on the pulse, the Townsville Refueller has. Wonder if he can advise winning lotto numbers?

So buddy 5 dogs, Which airport made them hold and have no lights. Fact's only. If you don't reply then you are full of what comes out of the anus of a cow. This is your chance buddy 5 dogs.

T'wasn't me, Jaba. My aeroplane has tanks for carrying FUEL, not AIR, and that's what I use them for! :} :ok:

What is the secrecy about?

Facts:

-The runway lights at DARWIN (YPDN) failed in the early evening of Friday
22 May 09.

-The back up power supply did not do it's job

-The failure lasted for over an hour according to a source.

There was no legal requirement to hold an alternate as the weather was fine etc

It is rather concerning that this can occur at an international airport, and one can only hope that a detailed investigation will examine the various aspects of the incident and ensure it won't happen again.

With the RAAF involved I somehow doubt that.

One would have thought that the fire service could have laid the portable lights onto 11/29 while the tech's were sorting out the missing volts/amps.

Where? What third world country has no requirement for an alternate? We carry/have two+ of everything in case of failure - engines, electrics, hydraulics, and airports

Oh, yeah, that's right, the only third world country to not carry an alternate is Australia. Silly me. Those crazy guys would rather carry 60 minutes for weather rather than 20-40 minutes for an alternate.

And I remember being told how Australia invented aviation. Those Aussies should get out there and tell all those first world countries with their reliable airport lighting, Cat III approaches and great ATC how they're doing it wrong.

:E

See, there you go again beer baron. Practical in every sense. And as for cat III, why would Australia need that? How many diversions this week for australian carriers? Third world and third rate indeed.

But did Kev's $42Bill package include any money for macquarie, so that they could help improve australian airport efficiencies?

Thats what they told us was happening. 5 mins later they determined they didn't have any.

:rolleyes: :mad: :=:* :mad: :rolleyes:

Kev?
 

But did Kev's $42Bill package include any money for macquarie, so that they could help improve australian airport efficiencies?

Little Johhy sold everything off, so the "Economy was always great." :ugh: Not sure who for and why should tax payers fund a private institution?

Macquarie has swiped enough money out of everyday people at Sydney Airport. Sydney Airport was one of our Assests sold off by the previous government.

Macquarie can cough up some dough. :ouch: That's right, you can only get profits and not spend one red cent! Stupid me... :ugh: Maybe it's best that the tax payer pays (again) then for previous government F@ck ups :}

I am not sure what the big deal is about arriving with MORE than minimum fuel? Sounds like the crew had their options regards fuel etc and had a handle on an unexpected situation.

The runway lights is another thing. Trying to get milage out of an A/C arrived with MORE than minimum fuel, seems to give everyone the sh!ts..... me included! :=

The TL refueller has always been a good and reliable source of information. He doesn't need to be discredited by others. :mad:

Your rants about Macuarie are nice, but nothing to do with Darwin Airport. Darwin is a joint user (military / civil) owed by the federal government- is it not??

I agree with BeerBaron...