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Capn Bloggs 11th May 2009 03:12

GPS technology breaks Perth Airport gridlock...?
 
from The West:


GPS technology breaks Perth Airport gridlock

11th May 2009, 6:00 WST



Air traffic control delays at Perth Airport that have caused costly bottlenecks lasting up to 45 minutes have been eliminated by new streamlined procedures.

They take advantage of the latest navigation technology using a global positioning system with pinpoint accuracy to just a few metres — instead of kilometres.

Congestion at Perth Airport has been made worse by the morning rush period between 5.30am and 7am when up to 70 aircraft depart and arrive on peak days.

Air traffic control provider AirServices Australia launched the Western Australia Route Review Project in 2002 to clean up WA air routes and air traffic control procedures that had their origins in the 1940s.

The addition of GPS capability on modern commercial aircraft has allowed much closer separation between aircraft.

Previously, the navigation tolerance between GPS-approved aircraft was a 14 nautical mile buffer around each aircraft.

This meant that two aircraft had to be 29 nautical miles apart — with the extra one nautical mile allowance for error.

Unlike the US and Europe, most of WA has no radar coverage and error tolerances had to be built into the air traffic control system, which relied essentially on intended speeds and course and pilots reporting position.

Controllers at Perth Airport had to keep aircraft at least three minutes apart on take-off, which meant the maximum aircraft able to takeoff per hour was about 20.

The new separation has been reduced to 15 nautical miles and combined with better co-ordination of aircraft that will use different flight tracks, the number of take-offs has effectively doubled.

At the same time, Perth Airport has completed a new taxiway that allows aircraft faster access to runway 06 — the shorter cross-runway that is used in strong easterly winds.

This taxiway saves at least five minutes each departure.

Perth Airport now has on average about 350 arrivals and departures a day.

But on peak days of Tuesdays and Thursdays the number is closer to 450 a day, making it the third busiest capital city airport after Sydney and Melbourne.

GEOFFREY THOMAS

While WARRP has done wonders for "smoothing" operations in WA outside radar coverage, and the new taxiway to the 06 threashold helps departures (by 5 minutes? :cool:), the GPS standards mentioned do very little for the main problem at Perth: the lack of a second runway!

The airborne holding periods and slot times for departure certainly haven't been "broken".

Call me a sceptic, but I reckon this is a GT peace-offering to WAC, letting them off the hook over the second runway after giving them a caning a few weeks ago about terminal delays.

Dick N. Cider 11th May 2009 09:29

Interesting to note:


Air traffic control provider AirServices Australia launched the Western Australia Route Review Project in 2002 to clean up WA air routes and air traffic control procedures that had their origins in the 1940s.
The new procedures, of course, had their origins in the 1940s - as will anything that follows...

Why do we even feed some journalists?

DNC

Bullethead 11th May 2009 10:12


Air traffic control provider AirServices Australia launched the Western Australia Route Review Project in 2002 to clean up WA air routes and air traffic control procedures that had their origins in the 1940s.
And despite this recent review there are still air routes into YPPH that have no connecting STARs and also STARs that have the name of another STAR as the transition identifier.

If that isn't a setup at the end of a long day in adverse conditions I don't know what is.

Regards,
BH.

Capn Bloggs 11th May 2009 11:52


And despite this recent review there are still air routes into YPPH that have no connecting STARs and also STARs that have the name of another STAR as the transition identifier.

If that isn't a setup at the end of a long day in adverse conditions I don't know what is.
Have you put in a suggestion to AsA to rectify this? RAPAC? None of the routes I fly into Perth fall into the category you mention, well none that I can remember...

What was achieved by PM, GW and their cohorts with WARRP was nothing short of exceptional, IMO. A few ragged edges but a terrific outcome overall. Pity about the clankup at the runway...

alidad 11th May 2009 12:01

:rolleyes:I know how to fix it........bring back waypoint ALWYN.....that'll sort things:sad:

Bullethead 11th May 2009 12:03

Paperwork is in the system Capn Bloggs. :ok:


What was achieved by PM, GW and their cohorts with WARRP was nothing short of exceptional, IMO. A few ragged edges but a terrific outcome overall.
Agreed, but why not get it all correct.

Regards,
BH.

Baileys 11th May 2009 12:22

It would want to be good for 7 years worth of work....if that's what they are saying.

Capn Bloggs 12th May 2009 02:36

Al,

I know how to fix it........bring back waypoint ALWYN.....that'll sort things
He's still there, over the rubbish dump! :ok:

Bug Smasher Smasher 12th May 2009 05:47

Capn Bloggs said:

the main problem at Perth: the lack of a second runway
Um,
1) 03/21
2) 06/24
:confused:

B767MAD 12th May 2009 05:50

Smash Smash , I think bloggs was thinking along the lines of 03L 03R etc

Sounds like a few have flown the CONDL1 instead of the GOSNL1 also.

Capn Bloggs 12th May 2009 06:08

Thank you 767. Bugsmasher, two lengths of bitumen that cross in the middle are not classified as two runways in this context, if you get what I mean. :ok:

CONDL v GOSNL: wax job required?

Icarus2001 12th May 2009 10:57

Fair point though Bloggs, would be a huge improvement if in the morning one could actually take off on one of the strips of bitumen RWY 24!. For goodness sake 24 with right turns and 21 with left turns would make a huge difference to flow rates.

But no. Noise complaints. So we spend millions of man hours, engine hours and burn more fossil fuel to keep the noise down at what..7-8am when everyone is getting up and having breakfast or driving to work anyway.

Sigh:ugh:

flyingfox 12th May 2009 16:02

GT Journalism
 
Conclusive proof I would think that GT is a discredited journalist who writes rubbish about aviation for a living. What on earth is he on about? There must be something he wants from either ATC or WAAC staff. This article is (yet again) complete nonsense.

:mad:

westausatc 13th May 2009 07:58

There have been a few instances where pilots have flown CONDL arrivals instead of GOSNL. Unfortunately, leads to the controller being stood down until they work out what happened. Supposedly fix is in the system... CONDL will become CONNY or something like that is what I have been told. Hope it fixes it.

And just like every other airport in the world, the lack of bitumen is what causes the delays. There have been no changes to the arrival rate for years so this airspace change has done nothing to help that. The reduction in traffic we service is what has helped.

west atc 14th May 2009 09:28


There have been a few instances where pilots have flown CONDL arrivals instead of GOSNL. Unfortunately, leads to the controller being stood down until they work out what happened.
Gotta love the Aussie way of doing things, something went wrong must have been the controller's fault. Having now worked in another country, it seems the rest of the world only cares whether you kept 3/5NM or 1000FT.
If something went wrong but there was no separation issue then the easiest thing is to ask the pilot whether they understood the clearance correctly, if they believe they did then it gets recorded but with no fault put on the controller.

It makes life a lot easier when you don't go to work worrying about every little minor thing that can go wrong, especially with feeding the machine and actually spend more time focusing on keeping the aircraft apart.


And just like every other airport in the world, the lack of bitumen is what causes the delays. There have been no changes to the arrival rate for years so this airspace change has done nothing to help that. The reduction in traffic we service is what has helped.
It's not always the lack of bitumen that causes the delays, I had a look at the arrival stats shortly before I left ASA and the amount of arrivals very rarely gets near the expected rate. This isn't always the fault of the approach controllers however, it is partly caused because the controllers are too afraid of the aircraft getting close to the required separation standard and the 'bit for mum' put in can help cause the delays. Where I work now 2.9 is still 3 as long as the aircraft are not put in a dangerous situation. If you are talking final approach, at 160-200kts GS on final, 2.9NM is still safe. There were many times on Perth Arrivals that I saw 3 aircraft within 30NM of the field, this is incredibly inefficient.

Mr. Hat 14th May 2009 09:40


7-8am when everyone is getting up and having breakfast or driving to work anyway.
There are some long term unemployed people that you might wake up Icarus. We need to keep them happy.

Dick N. Cider 14th May 2009 09:52

Particularly nice touch that the land reserved for a parallel runway is now rapidly filling with industrial buildings on 20 year leases. The theory being - "Tell us if you want that runway and give us 25 years notice to end the leases and build the damn thing..."

Just goes to prove that airport operators aren't interested in aviation. It just gets in the way of developing all that lovely flat industrial land relatively close to capitol cities. How many more DFOs do we need?

DNC

kimberleyEx 15th May 2009 06:00

Dick N Cider.

You hit the nail on the head!

Yes WAC has the airports best needs at heart.... Just not the Aviation needs!

Regards.

K-Ex

Joker 10 15th May 2009 06:10

If you look at the major airports in USA and UK you will find the airport land is generally utilised for commercial property where ever it can be safely outside exclusion zones, otherwise the landing/handling fees would be manifestly higher.

A really good example of offsetting costs is the work being done at Jandakot.

Icarus2001 15th May 2009 10:04

I am no big fan of WAC however...

Particularly nice touch that the land reserved for a parallel runway is now rapidly filling with industrial buildings
I am not sure that this is true. Have a look at this link to the WAC Perth Airport Master Plan and check out the plans and aerial photo, you will see that the racetrack is in the way but not the distribution centre, as far as I can see.

Happy to be corrected.

http://www.perthairport.com/getfile....&ObjectID=3387


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