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positivegee 2nd Mar 2009 12:46

QF A380's Grounded by fungus in fuel
 
I just saw this story on Ten News tonight. It sounds a little phoney to me. Can anyone verify?

If it's true, it'll be a huge pain in the butt for QF.

hadagutfull 2nd Mar 2009 12:59

Big deal.... change some filters and give the fuel tanks a treatment....
Nothing new here.....

Aussie 2nd Mar 2009 14:39

Anyone know where the contaminated fuel came from? Mascot??? Or over in the US?

Jabawocky 2nd Mar 2009 20:26

Aussie

Its may not be contaminated fuel. I imagine that Jet Fuel may have some bug killing additives, but maybe not! Its been a long known problem, mainly in the marine environment where you get condensation in tanks.

When the H2O settles into a nice dark corner and not disturbed too often these little bugs have a very comfy home and breed faster than rabbits!:ooh: Diesel suffers far more than petrol and I would say Jet fuel also, as its not that much different!

Over time the water may be disturbed and the fungus has grown, then it gets killed off by the fuel, the fungud falls off the wall like a ... well a bit of a mushroom corossed with silicone, and makes a great fuel line and filter blocker. Albeit you need a lot of it. You would swear someone had gone mad with a silicone tube, but its not at all.

Now exactly what you get in the wing of an airliner, I can not say first hand but it would be quite likely its very similar.

J

lowerlobe 2nd Mar 2009 21:07

It would be a problem if you had an aircraft designed to run on the new environmentally friendly fuel made from fromage......:E

This mornings news ( if you can believe them ) said that three QF A-380's are grounded with a fuel problem....

I wonder if this might mean....des compensations financières substantielles

flying-spike 2nd Mar 2009 23:37

Is this the stuff?
 
http://www.casa.gov.au/fsa/2005/oct/50-51.pdf

Short_Circuit 2nd Mar 2009 23:44

Is there a camera approved for use in a fuel tank?:eek:

Ngineer 2nd Mar 2009 23:57

Does'nt the A380 have a procedure to carry out fuel drains frequently?

Ken Borough 3rd Mar 2009 00:16

Flying again
 
ABC Radio News has just reported that after grounding, all three A380 are now back in the air, having been "fixed". There was a grab from an official of the LAME's union congratulating the Company for having reacted so positively. There was not however any mention of flying pigs!!

hotnhigh 3rd Mar 2009 02:04

As Richie would say..."Henri, What le fungus?"

Joker 10 3rd Mar 2009 02:12

In the late 60's the wing tanks on the C 130 A models all had clostridium (sic) growing in them which ate its way through the Alloy tank structure causing major repairs to be taken by the whole fleet.

Microbiological ( sometimes called fungal ) contamination is not to be laughed about.

QF DRIVE 3rd Mar 2009 02:52

Press reports A380's grounded due fuel leaks.

C441 3rd Mar 2009 03:21

When Australian Airlines kicked off in Cairns a while back they had a similar problem perhaps as a result of the humid conditions. At a meeting at the time a senior person from up that way described it as a dose of "tank clap" :cool:

positivegee 3rd Mar 2009 03:47

"QF DRIVE Press reports A380's grounded due fuel leaks."

Yes QFD, from all reports it looks like a fuel leakage issue...the fungus might have been from the fun gas the reporter was on!:confused:

Buster Hyman 3rd Mar 2009 04:13

Nice to see Qantas has grown a little culture....:E

Shlonghaul 3rd Mar 2009 04:49


Nice to see Qantas has grown a little culture
Good one Buster! :ok: :D :D ....... I thought it would have taken much longer for culture to return to Qantas after Darth left :E

ron burgandy 3rd Mar 2009 05:00

:}Never buy the A model of anything.......................................

Captain Sherm 3rd Mar 2009 05:42

Well its hardly the "A" model. First flew nearly 4 years ago and been in service for well over a year.

And of all the types that have been introduced in modern times I would have thought that a fuel fungus was fairly low down the list of gremlins (and worse!)
  • Comets managed a number of accidents til they were rebuilt.
  • Electras had to be ferried back to the US to have the wings reskinned after a few wing separations
  • Boeing 727s had several accidents due inability to handle high sink rates on approach
  • First -100 series 747 rarely got across the Atlantic with all engines running
  • Douglas test pilots broke an MD-80 in half during the landing tests

In fact I think the 777 was probably the closest we've yet seen to a flawless EIS and even that wasn't perfect.

This A380 will be a great machine for QF and this is simply a hiccup on that road. Nothing more.

Wod 3rd Mar 2009 06:21

Not for the first time
 
QF has cultural form.

My dodgy memory has a 747 classic flying Bahrain-Heathrow long, long ago, and starving one engine of fuel at top Of Descent and a second (same side) on long finals.

Ultimate source deemed to be sea water in Bahrain fuel causing goo formation.

(What was the old joke as engines failed one by one - "At this rate we'll be up here forever")

Hopefully someone with more confidence in their memory will correct me if I'm wrong.

sthaussiepilot 3rd Mar 2009 06:23


At a meeting at the time a senior person from up that way described it as a dose of "tank clap
:D:ok: Hahaha

So QF has managed to catch the aircraft STD?:}

On a serious note,

So far what has been the issues on the A380 since entering service?

Steering Problems, Fuel, and I heard something on a cargo door on a few of them? :confused: anything else so far?


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