The number of times I have seen adults and their children unstrapped in the cabin suggest total oblivion to the risks involved. The seatbelts fastened sign is there for a reason which the paxing public obviously don't fully comprehend. Maybe the you-tube clip on smh should be added into the safety brief?

I now make a point of asking the cabin crew to ring me if the pax don't follow the seat belt sign. I then make a stern PA TELLING them to stop using the toilets, sit down and fasten their seat belts for their own safety. I further add that CX will not be responsible if they get hurt.

usually does the trick.

We all know what a "red eye" flight is.

Would that flight constitute a "black eye" flight?

Boom tish...:}

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The know-it-all Capt. decided to balance the fuel [ showed his lack of knowledge] by turning the hyd. pumps off[ 2 at a time]. They were not protected in those days as Airbus thought no one would be that stupid.
With no hyd to the stab. it caused a violent pitchup. Quick thinking F/O grabed his side-stick and commanded a full down imput. while k-i-a realised his mistake and quickly put the hyd. pumps back on.
Result was a wild ride with some injuries,don't know how many, but not as bad as this A330 upset. Can't be done now, but if you try , you split your fingers down the middle into quarters.:ooh:

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Captaindejavu. Thank you for your insightful comment on my post "Chest beaters". Just to put your mind at rest the uppercase letters on each word was an unintended consequence of having typed the post with the Caps Lock button depressed. Try it and you will see for yourself what happens when the post is submitted. Now, do you have something constructive to add to the thread?

I heard an interview with a passenger today who stated the F/O was not on the flightdeck, and was injured.

Is'nt this a web site for professional pilots????? Dont you guys know anything?? It is quite obvious that it was an air pocket. :}

Yes Old Fella, so far forty six posts on this thread have been removed by Moderators due to contributing nothing to the thread subject. I noticed similar numbers of posts have also been removed from the thread on the same subject in the Rumours and News Forum.

This news forum is for professional pilots to either constructively contribute or to find facts on the thread subject. No one wants to delve through reams and reams of meaningless, unqualified arm chair speculation, worthless comment or idle thread drift in order to separate the chaff from the facts.

Those wishing to speculate are welcome to open a thread in either GA and Questions or Jetblast.

Source of that information?? :confused:

(In order others may assess it's veracity, as that comment has certainly not be made by any of the authorities in their various releases.)

Now that is entirely plausible and really scary and why my crew are only allowed to leave the flight deck for as long as a "comfort stop" takes. Of course this could have been what was in fact occuring. Visiting with the FA's or any one else is not on in a 2 crew environment.

It concentrates the mind wonderfully if, for whatever reason the event occured, you are on your own and to be told the FO is US. MAYDAY is a good look for me too.:uhoh:

skycatcher,
If the f/o was in the crew rest...
The tech crew were planned sin-per-sin, therefore three pilots (second officer in other seat).

Actually, for "aviation professionals" according to the owners of pprune. That might include one or two other professions in addition to pilots.:ok:


Yes, I accept that. However the news forums is for competent, professional comment and debate on current issues affecting the professional aviation industry. There are other forums for the arm chair experts and Flight Sim brigade.

Tail Wheel

Agreed!

T

The only failure that I can think of that might lead to this would be the Loss of Elevator Redundency following some dual FLCTL failure and then a third failure??

The information posted here is rumour and the ususal wild speculation - FSM

I am not airbus endorsed, but what I have heard is one engine wound back and as this engine went through its relight phase, the second engine wound back too, a total of approx. 10 seconds was achieved with no power. CASA are now indicating that a computer issue seems to be a cause.

Once again, this is all speculation. Deeds.

Engine re-light at FL370? extremely slow and in my opinion doubtful, even on an Airbus!!

7000' above max guaranteed altitude

Rollers take a crap load more than 10 secs to re-light, try nearly 2 minutes. FL370 significantly above OEI alt, even for an empty a/c, so I think the engine wind back thing is a crock :eek: It would have lost 1000s of feet.

MMmmm Interesting, I said early on in this thread that this wasnt simply a cat incident and I had all the pro qantas gurus say what a load of crap, etc etc.
I never said the crew did anything improper, infact I am sure they handled it very well and made the best decision based on the info they had at the time. But maybe some of those who love to vocal themselves on these threads at those who may not agree with their premature predictions should take a look as this as an example of your not always so correct yourselves..:ok:

I also heard it on Sky News. The pax said the Captain or First Officer was in the cabin.

The ATSB and Qantas tonight confirmed the incident was caused by a "computer malfunction" leading to an "elevator malfunction" and not CAT.

Source: Sky News

Well, win lose or draw, pitch up then rapid loss of altitude sounds like a full on departure from controlled flight to me. That's where it turns from an elegant flying machine to a wet bag of cement. Walks talks and quacks etc.

The whole circus, alpha floor protection et al, is never supposed to go anywhere near that mode of flight for the very reason that it is pretty damn unpleasant, is flight test only and certainly not something you ever want pax to experience.

What caused it is the question. "there it goes again" :eek:

Sounds like a hell of a flight for the S/O to perhaps get his first landing in a control seat if the F/O or Capt was injured!