Neville

I am intrigued.

Do you have hard evidence of these overseas undercutters, or is it a supposition on your part that VA's recruitment is OS biased.

M

The Boeing strike is probably a good thing for VA. Gives them more time, which they need, allows them to blame Boeing for missing the inaugural, and probably might even earn them some money by way of penalties from Boeing. Perhaps they could spend that money on upping the salary a bit, rather than exec bonuses.

But then again, I have no idea.

I think there's only one mob that have no idea mate, and it certainly isn't you!

Somehow I think Boeing have a clause that exempts them from penalty payments for late delivery due to strikes.

A bit like building your house the contract time is extended due wet weather.

From what I am hearing close to the toolboxes on the shop floor........some are expecting a very long strike, maybe end of year:eek:.

J

Neville

Apart from a couple of Kiwi checkers I don't know of any foreign pilots recruited by V.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument. :ok:

Or more to the point, the foreigners are smart enough to stay away from them!

How many from Emirates accepted. I know of one !

They'll need more than 1!

I was of the understanding there were alot of Fijians, Kiwis and some Yarpies in the initial mix. Who knows whether they actually signed on the dotted line.

However my point wasn't necessarily directed at V specifically just the general lack of a two way street, and the undercutting of the conditions in Australia.

Can't work where Neville?
 

Mate! Have you ever been to Fiji or Africa? Apparently not - there are always Ozzies flying there. Fiji in particular is a poor example. Both the local domestic airlines use Ozzi pilots on a regular basis and as for not being able to get B737 time there - b*llocks! Rishworths have been placing freshly rated expat kids there with AirPac for years. My only worry with hiring 3rd world guys is the standards they bring with them. Having spent years flying in such places I have seen some very poor operators in big shiny jets, simply because they are nationals. (A stale story I know but many reading will know what I mean).

As for Air NZ (My old employer), we had Ozzies flying with us when I was there! And they were interviewing guys from QF Link for their last round...

Neville

Give me list of countries where there aren't any Aussies pilots and I'll give you an even bigger list of countries where there are some flying for a living. My current employer Emirates acquired a whole bunch of Aussies in '89, just when they were about to announce a large pay rise to attract more pilots. Guess what happened to the pay rise. In the past couple of years, Virgin Blue have been supplying EK with plenty of pilots so what's wrong with V Australia bringing a few home.

Imagine what would happen to pilot salaries in Australia if all the Aussie pilots returned home.

I've heard a couple of names of Australians from overseas who've been offered jobs with VA. Of course it's just one man's opinion, but they've taken on some really good guys and some really ...(If you've seen 'Momma Mia!', "...dot dot dot") guys.

(Again, just one man's opinion), but they've been particularly lucky in some of the people they've lured away from EK. However, the one common thread when you look at most of those people is that they had really pressing reasons to want to return home, (reasons I'm not going to go into here), but suffice to say, they were so pressing that they overrode money considerations.

Translation: they've accepted taking a really heavy hit in the hip pocket after deciding the other factors were more important.

Capt Dump might have another dunny spit! := See here.

Well here is the first one up close!

http://file040b.bebo.com/6/large/200...955157879l.jpg

http://file040b.bebo.com/6/large/200...955157831l.jpg

http://file040b.bebo.com/6/large/200...955157782l.jpg

J:ok:

note it has wheel and engine covers fitted, doesn't look like Boeing is finishing off. It's going to be very late.

I see our's in the background of the bottom picture, due to be delivered next fri.

My, my - those Qantas execs must be truly peed off with the VA livery.

A bit of a coup there, methinks.

ACMS :ok:

I have some good news and some bad news:}

The good news is your new Trippler should be ready Friday, and I would suggest no fancy "missed approaches" this time unless planned and approved! The fun police just do not get it do they!


The bad news ...... if you have booked on V Australia for say a white Christmas in the USA or a ski trip over new year, might be time to book elsewhere or hope VA are going to charter another carrier.

As ACMS points out the aircraft is looking rather "stored" and the word is the storage is for the duration of the machinists strike, and that could be until December:eek:.

Sorry about that little heartbreaker!:{

J:ok:

Noticed the rego is the first a/c rego VGA of virgin blue when it start with the 400's in 2000. Wondered when they were to reuse those!

They are still waiting for the AOC but if they got that in time do VA have any spares that they could wet lease to get it all up and running? Its kinda of a long way to go in a 737.

So when is V Aus going to announce to Joe public that the launch is delayed?

Because that trippler ain't go'n no where in a hurry. :sad:


Actually we are kind of worried about the 777 we have stuck half built on the production line. The machinists will try to pick up where they left off 1 to 2 months before!!!!!!!!!!!! oh what a mess................worse than a Monday morning Aircraft.