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Two foreign airlines to serve Bali

Ni Komang Erviani , Contributor , Badung | Thu, 09/04/2008 10:18 AM | Bali
Two more foreign airlines have been scheduled to provide direct flights to Bali in the near future said Heru Legowo, general manager for airport operations at Ngurah Rai international Airport on Wednesday.
"The two airlines are Hong Kong Express based in Hong Kong and Virgin Blue in Australia," Heru said, speaking for the state-owned firm PT Angkasa Pura I, which manages the airport.
He said the two airlines would start offering direct flights to Bali later this month: Hong Kong Express to begin on Sept. 11 with four flights from Hong Kong a week and Virgin Blue would fly in 11 times a week from Cairns.
"The start date for Virgin Blue flights has not been set yet, but they have been scheduled to start within the month," he said.
The two airlines will raise the number of foreign airlines serving Bali directly to 26.
Heru expected more foreign airlines will help increase the number of foreign tourists visiting the resort island, especially from Hong Kong and Australia.
As Hong Kong Express also flies to South Korea and Taiwan, "we hope the new services will significantly raise the number of visitors to Bali", he said.
Aloysius Purwa, chair of the Bali chapter of the Association of Indonesian Tour and Travel Agencies (ASITA), hailed the planned services by the two foreign airlines.
The rising number of foreign tourists visiting Bali reflects rising international interest in the island, Purwa said.
"This will ensure Bali remains one of the favorite tourism destinations in the world," he said.
"Bali needs still more foreign airlines to enable foreign tourists to go there."
Purwa added the number of foreign airlines serving direct flights to Bali is still too small to attract significantly more visitors.
Based on figures from the Denpasar office of the Central Statistics Agency, the number of foreign tourists visiting Bali from January to July 2008 reached about 1.11 million, an increase of 21.64 percent compared to 912,270 tourists during the corresponding period last year.

Not a bad "look at" for DJ - the Island of the Gods.

The place is vastly under capacity and Garuda has chucked everything it can at Australia with its A330s, but is still under capacity to hell.

They simply do not have the bucks top buy the birds to service the market.

JQ is frowned on by most of our passengers who prefer to get a Bintang (dingin sekalih) delivered for free along with free edible tucker.

I personally do not think that a new carrier, albeit a fluffy wuffy fun one, offering a buy everything you want service on DPS will cut the mustard, particularly on a run where Garuda is very kind on sporting equipment such as surfboards.

All DJ will do is dilute the JQ passenger revenue IMHO.

A BNE DPS nonstop may be the only logical run, as it is not covered unless over SYD and would attract some of the budget concious younger traffic from MCY to OOL.

Just my 2 bobs worth.

Best all

EWL

Duh, Pacific Blue will operate.

11 a week out of Cairns?

Nah.

11 total from Per, Bne and maybe Drw and Cns.

Pac Blue will soon have to work out what to do with 11 738s.

Per-Dps is an obvious route, once they can work out how to crew it so far from CHC or AKL.

I would suggest a pairing like:
day 1: Akl-Bne-Dps
2: Dps-Per-Dps
(optional) 3 :Dps-Drw-Dps
3rd or 4th: Dps-Cns-Akl
and vice versa

(but what do I know)
(edited to remove some dumb auto smiley)
YD

maybe Per-Dps with an E-190 could be more likely...

Released today, JQ to operate BN - DN - Bali and return, starts 3rd Dec, 7 days per week. Wonder if QF will continue code sharing with Airnorth, or swing back to JQ? Fares are $249 ex BN, $199 ex DN

Gee eastwest

With your valuable insight and knowledge into the airline world. One does not wonder why you were not given the head gig at Q.

Damn those fools delivering a billion dollar (ok nearly):ok:

DJ intend to operate BNE - DPS direct.

Trip already put together I believe.
BN - DPS (overnight)
DPS - PER - DPS (overnight)
DPS - BNE
will be done by PB in 738s

BNE-DPS overnight.....Rumah Sakit with Bali belly :uhoh:

Done by PB in either PB or VB painted planes with either VB or PB crew as both EBA's permit it.

A long way in a 737 but then again BNE-PER is not much less and crew have been doing that for a long while.

Wonder what will happen with catering in DPS?

Would be a nice overnight for whichever crew get to operate it.

Any ops would be by the 737's doubt we will see the EMB's transfered to PB any time soon to operate international

Tunedog
 

When you have been in the "industry" and run and owned a successful business on the waifer thin margins available, for as long as Loco has, then you can start being a smart arse. How dare you ridicule the experience of such a well liked, and respected member of the travel industry. Your M.O. is to stir people up. You must like the attention. Go and get some help.

My understanding is that the flight will be capped at approx 140 pax!

Skystar 320 nothing has to be transfered anywhere to operate international as long as it says "PACIFIC BLUE " on the outside and not "VIRGIN BLUE" it can go . Several Virgin Blue aircraft have Pac Blue name on them and have VH Rego.These latest routes (Port Morbid and Bali) will be operated by VH registered 737-800's and crewed by virgin blue crew and using the Pac Blue call sign.

Kotoyebe

Relax a little son. Running small business does not give you auomatic knowledge of the overall industry and does creates bias when you have dependancies. If I disagree with what is posted ill will damn well post it. Historically if you look at Loco's posts he is damning of the big Q and Jetstar. Why. Because JQ and Jetstar do not want to pay commission fees to travel agencies. In other words big guy the motives of the big airlines is to have everyone booking online which would save airlines countless millions. This inturn will lead to lower costs. If I were Loco I would do they same but to vent your frustration on PPRUNE and poison the Q and Jetstar brands.

I would rather see people book online on an ozzie airline rather than one of his favourites Garuda since they wouldhave to pay more commission to travel agencies. Remember this airline is banned from flying into the EU. I can only imagine how poorly paid their workers are and their appalling safety record speaks for itself. Who the hell would stick their wife and kids on Garuda? Not if my life depended on it.

I wish all the Airlines in OZ every bit of success and it is about bloody time we started being more supportive of our industries rather than support Singapore or Cathey when the Q product is just as good if not better. Sadly enough the old tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in Oz.

Do I need help? Where do I start. So run along and dream of handling the big jets.:=

There has been discussion of Bali returns (seperate negotiations for the wet lease setup, so overnights are probably not going to happen). Of course things change.

Bwahahahaha.... Best laugh I've had all morning. :ugh:

In regards to DOGONE.
Released today, JQ to operate BN - DN - Bali and return, starts 3rd Dec, 7 days per week.

We (family) go up twice a year - now before people start knocking the place - it has improved and is great value for money but what is the QF Group doing?

The ABS state that: The number of Australians travelling to Bali in the first quarter of 2008 increased by more than 57% against last year, with larger percentage growth from Perth and Darwin (75% and 71% respectively), 44% from Victoria/Tasmania an 49% from NSW/ACT.

So Garuda add triple daily PER-DPS from 3 Sept, JQ 3 per week,
Garuda added a 3rd DRW-DPS 25 Jun, JQ the daily from Dec,
Garuda added their 5th from MEL-DPS 02 Sept, JQ 2 a week of which one starts in SYD.
Garuda added 6th SYD-DPS service 02 Sept, JQ has 4 direct and 1 via MEL.

Garuda addresses the market - the QF Group does not.
Look at PER-DPS these peole love Bali - it's closer and cheaper than say the Gold Coast but QF is just handing the $$'s over to Garuda.


And then they compete with the parent on the HNL run? go figure.

Yeah, but thats Garuda.....Garuda are just :oh:bad:oh: At least there is another carrier challenging Garuda there.

Captaintunedog777, the Q product used to be good. Now it is a shell of its former self with, with self centred egotistical CC who think thw world owes them a lot.

I agree that it is good to support the home grown product, but when Qantas shafts everybody from the pilot to the passenger and all in between, it is time to move on and fly with SIA or Cathay.

It is a strange feeling to be served bt CC that are genuinely nice and helpful. QF CC lost these 2 traits years ago.Now they only have time to bitch to each other in the galley rather than deliver customer service.