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rexxxxxy 27th Aug 2008 01:01


I'll stop you in the tracks right here, all available capacity seat wise has been used by relevant carries, so unless a carrier reduces seats it will be unlikely to see DJ in POM
These flights may be conducted 'in conjunction' with someone who already has the allocated capacity. :cool:

It's not a sure thing by any means, however it's under review.

Skystar320 27th Aug 2008 01:06

Doubtful to say atlease,

QF, PX [PX is using SAW E190] then now APNG

Nope -

XRlent100 27th Aug 2008 07:01

should be interesting to have 2 x E190's trying to push back along with the 200 other departures each morning.

How's terminal WA going??????????

yowie 27th Aug 2008 11:38

Good point XR, not to mention that DJ have deferred the options on at least 10 of the EJ's, lets watch:confused:

Capn Bloggs 27th Aug 2008 12:34


executive style EMBRAER jet
Uh oh, here come the boys and their toys. Bring 'em on! :}

Cunning, you're thinking of PBO.

QF5 27th Aug 2008 14:04

Only four Ejets were deferred, 8 190's are in service already (ZPH started last week) and there're 4 170's, with another 6 190's due this year.

joepatroni 27th Aug 2008 14:08

Have to agree on that one. On my trips from Perth the number of aircraft movements looks horrid. Good luck positioning aircraft onto bays between 5-6am!

ad-astra 27th Aug 2008 19:43

Skystar 320 (Regarding VBA Port Moresby Ops)

"Doubtful to say atlease,

QF, PX [PX is using SAW E190] then now APNG

Nope -"

I wouldn't bet your house on that one!

rexxxxxy 28th Aug 2008 02:48

Sorry Skystar.

You are bound to get one wrong every 10 years... :ugh:

Skystar320 28th Aug 2008 03:05

it seems so........... :ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch:

cunninglinguist 28th Aug 2008 04:14

Thanks Bloggsy, u r correct, was thinking of PBO.

A1BUGSMASHER 28th Aug 2008 09:13

Virgin can't do international flights using Virgin branding full stop due to Singapore airlines buying into Virgin Atlantic, hence the start-up of Pacific Blue and Polynesian Blue, so unless they operate them under those names it won't be Virgin pushing into these routes.

Good to see them finally coming into WA, with the intra state review winding up and the new way forward announced soon I'm sure there are some 'high flyers' working for the home town hero's who will be having some sleepless nights:E..... Even with some recent mining contract wins, Virgin coming to town and their protected routes being thrown open to some competition will see their yields on those routes slashed and burned!! Just like the plans to introduce the A320's.......:}

Who wants to start the bidding to see how long it will take them to start going back to these clients crying poor and needing a rate rise.

topend3 28th Aug 2008 09:47

agreed bugsmasher competition on these routes is great though i remain to be convinced that Newman can support two carriers, I think Karratha can...

If the people in Newman want to see an end to no seats and high prices they will need to jump on board and support Virgin.

As QF have been very quick to lower their fares to match those of Virgin's then many punters may take the QF flight to get the FF points and the free meal...strange how some people think.

To be fair to QF they have been injecting a lot of capacity into the market, what gets people is how the prices suddenly get lowered when there is the threat of competition...

muII 28th Aug 2008 22:30

Does XR go to Newman as well, that would mean they will have 3 carriers in there, sounds like too much to me..:bored:

Skystar320 28th Aug 2008 23:25


Skystar 320 (Regarding VBA Port Moresby Ops)

"Doubtful to say atlease,

QF, PX [PX is using SAW E190] then now APNG

Nope -"

I wouldn't bet your house on that one!
I double checked my facts on this last night it seems that APNG & Virgin Blue are only talks with the newspaper getting a wiff and writing up on it.....

However with DJ unable to internationally operate the EMB's they would either

A) Transfer them to Pacific / Polly Blue
B) or, with DJ deffering EMB products APNG might have secured one of their options?????

All I know that is a far done deal between APNG & DJ hence making my point still valid.....

topend3 28th Aug 2008 23:40


Does XR go to Newman as well, that would mean they will have 3 carriers in there, sounds like too much to me..
XR goes 4 x times per week but only 2 are RPT, as their service is very unreliable many of the locals don't bother with them so DJ see an opportunity here...

Capt Claret 28th Aug 2008 23:46

As I recall some years ago, Port Headland community and businesses whinged and moaned about the lack of competition but then failed to support the second carrier when they arrived.

blade root 28th Aug 2008 23:50

Just checked the VB flight booking site and at the bottom of the booking form states " flight operated by Skywest".

Skystar320 28th Aug 2008 23:56

will be interesting to see is DJ go into PHE? [Port Hedland]

With the low cost of flights will they stimulate demand for the services to be viable?

Monopole 29th Aug 2008 00:24


Good luck positioning aircraft onto bays between 5-6am
Easy.......
What they have done is shunted the F50 further down the apron and bus the pax back n forth like the old days. So much for progress :rolleyes:


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