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blue belly 3rd Jun 2008 09:13

1989- Pilots dispute 19 years on
 
The 19th anniversary of the pilots dispute is approaching slowly- anyone planning to do anything?

Captain Sherm 3rd Jun 2008 09:43

Other than staying a member of my union even though flying days are past....and never forgetting.....nah, not doing much. Next year, 20th though.....might let my hair down

2p!ssed2drive 3rd Jun 2008 10:40


might let my hair down
I haven't had a good laugh in ages.

I probably chuckled for about 5 minutes straight. This belongs in Jet Blast

Touche'! :ok:

Mr.Buzzy 3rd Jun 2008 10:49

Yep. Might think about starting my own union...... One with teeth!

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tail wheel 3rd Jun 2008 11:33

2p!ssed2drive.

Whilst my better judgment based on many years PPRuNe experience, tends to agree with you, this thread may remain.

However, if it incites the usual "passions" you will find it either in Jet Blast or more likely, lost eternally in Cyber Space!

:=

RadioSaigon 3rd Jun 2008 12:31


Originally Posted by blue belly
...anyone planning to do anything?

Build a bridge and get over it?

Consign it to history where it belongs?

Move on with your life?

works for me..

Mr. Hat 3rd Jun 2008 12:38

enjoy life on half the money and 10 times the house price?

Capt Fathom 3rd Jun 2008 12:48


Consign it to history where it belongs?
History can be a powerful thing!

Regardless of what side you were on, a lot of peoples' lives changed forever.
Some for better, some worse, some lives ended.

And not just the pilots.

Family, friends, acquaintances and fellow collegues. Businesses large and small. All were affected!

A significant event in the history of Australia, and aviation in particular.

Celebrate or commiserate. The choice is yours!

blue belly 3rd Jun 2008 12:49

dear radiosaigon

I am well and truly over it- don't worry about that!! moved on a long long time ago...

However it is written in history and will remain that way for ever! Now who has a bad conscience out there?? hmmm certainly not me!

Teal 3rd Jun 2008 13:00

No doubt for the 20th anniversary next year, the media will dredge up some horror stories and still refer to it as "the pilots' strike"..:rolleyes:

Capt Wally 3rd Jun 2008 13:18

Am sure that those directly effected by WW3 may forgive over time but they will never forget! Hawky & Ables where in bed together at the time, where are they now? Like the debacle they created, history!
This country learnt something during that uglyness, big business & the Govt of the day where both crooks!:bored:


CW

Rawrawhammer 3rd Jun 2008 13:56

"Might think about starting my own union...... One with teeth!"

Honestly not a bad idea buzzy.A Pilots union, founded by Pilots for Pilots.It's time for change.Although it seems virtually impossible as you wouldn't expect the QF heroes to be in favor of it and VB etc probably neither.
Maybe a GA union, ITS A START!:ok:

:zzz:......*slap* Wake up...wake up

nomorecatering 3rd Jun 2008 14:09

My family will remember 1989 for many reason.

1 months befor the dispute, an uncle of mine retired and using all his super and life savings bought a small boutiqe motel in Qld. The settlement happend the week the pilots went off work.

6 weeks later, after 100% cancellations rate, the bank forclosed.

2 weeks later my uncle committed suicide.

4 months later my aunt died of a broken heart after 40 years of marriage.

19 years later, a small part of my family still wont speak to me. even though I played no part. Was only a PPL then.

Some families were affected more than others!

airsupport 3rd Jun 2008 23:04


The 19th anniversary of the pilots dispute is approaching slowly- anyone planning to do anything?
Trying very much to forget it. :(

A lot of lives and careers (including mine) were ruined because of the strike, and we didn't even have a say in it. :(

Get over it. :ugh:

mates rates 3rd Jun 2008 23:26

there was no strike

airsupport 3rd Jun 2008 23:38


there was no strike
I assure you there was, I was there at the time, and it ruined my life, and the lives of many other innocent people who had no say in the strike. :mad:

The pilots were in "dispute" with the companies over a massive wage rise, until they eventually went on "strike". :ugh:

parabellum 4th Jun 2008 00:06

Airsupport - The pilots resigned en masse to protect their super fund that was going to be declared forfeit if the dispute continued.

Few, if any, realised that their action wouldn't bring about a negotiated settlement, they didn't know of the conspiracy between Hawke and Ables.

It was a tragic day for Australian aviation and the many people, including yourself, involved, either directly or indirectly. It was also a tragic day for the future of clean government, honesty and credibility in business.

Capt Wally 4th Jun 2008 00:17

Since then I have never trusted the Labor Govt & voted with me feet.
I hope the current Labor Govt doesn't step in in some devious way if the QF debacle gets ugly & follow down the steps of the fool Hawky who stepped in last time back then!
I guess it's hard to forget for those that still suffer the anguish & hopefully one day they will forget enough to not feel such sadness when ever this subject is bought up.

CW

airsupport 4th Jun 2008 00:18


The pilots resigned
IF that is true, then that was the end of the dispute, it had exactly the same affect on the public and us other lesser employees. :mad:

Also IF that is true, the pilots resigned for their own selfish reasons, nobody could possibly (in good faith) still go on about the pilots that were brought in from Overseas to take their place, but they do. :mad:

2p!ssed2drive 4th Jun 2008 01:53


selfish

ruined my life

Hawke

suicide

won't speak to me
while my heart goes out...
Honestly... we all know how freaking terrible it was. I was hoping this thread would be deleted before we started hearing the above words.
we hear it over and over.. but we can't change the past.
we should all know better than to open up this can of worms.
2p2d


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