Presently flying with Portuguese tech crew on PX schedules including twice weekly into Sydney.

For how long?

PNG Post Courier Friday 4 April.(Also reported Weekend Australian)

K2m to stop us being cut off

PAPUA New Guinea faces a major disaster, a threat from outside. And it’s all our own fault!
Our air links to the rest of the world are at risk.
International civil aviation authorities are to visit us next month and if they are not satisfied with our accounting for airline crashes, they can pull the plug on our flights to and from other countries.
This is the dilemma facing us and it could all fall apart in the next month or two.
Our exclusive report today shows Transport authorities have been begging the Government for money to avoid this disaster but no answers have been received.
All Transport needs is a bit more than K2 million, to send investigators to the sites of 19 plane crashes that have piled up for the past seven years.
Without that commitment, Transport has been staving off action by the international body year after year.
Now, the time of reckoning is near.
We have less than a month to show the International Civil Aviation Organisation that we are serious about accounting for our plane crashes and that we are keeping our standards up to the mark, internationally.
Not only is it a matter of keeping world authorities happy with our aviation standards, it is an issue of keeping bereaved relatives of victims of those plane crashes satisfied that all has been done to investigate.
For many, insurance payouts of compensation have been kept hanging. Insurance companies are notoriously reluctant to dish out payments unless they are satisfied with the findings of fault with accidents.
Their stockholders ensure that they do not drop their standards and that they only pay out once the causes of the accidents are verified and responsibility laid where it belongs.
Internationally, Papua New Guinea could be cut off.
How would our leaders like it if they were unable to travel to any other country in the world? What if they fell ill and wanted to fly to Brisbane or Kuala Lumpur or other centre for expert medical attention, as is commonly done?
If the ICAO barred our international flights, where would we be?
We would find our borders closed, in effect, like a Zimbabwe, without having a Robert Mugabe to blame.
All for the want of K2.3 million to satisfy international standards and to enable grieving relatives to get their compensation payments. Can one of the MPs slice K2.3 million of the K10 million district grant and sort it out immediately?

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Anyone Interested In Dash 8 Command?
 

Hi SHAGGS
I think maybe the audience thinks your post is an April Fool's joke.

Maybe this was the April Fool's Joke.


The B757 was scheduled for PX004 today but was stuck in HKG. THey then scheduled the A310 and the Captain went sick. So they then allotted one F100 to do BNE-POM and of course the 120 odd Pax would not fit and as I was on an FOC, I definitely did not fit.

It was a supreme Air Niugini moment.....

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Aaahh Sharpie

Don't I just miss all this now !!!:O

Sharpie, are you a citizen these days? Maybe not for much longer if you are seen to criticise the government.;)

I would have thought with your experience and track record you could establish the guilty parties in all outstanding investigations for a lot less than K2.3 mil.

What, jumpseat not available for Sharpie?:ok:

About time someone is going to do something about giving Sid some funds to investigate some of the accidents. There are still a lot of accident investigations left open due to the fact that the investigators can't get to the crash sight due to a lack of funding.

Worrying thing is that some of these accidents may have been caused by mechanical failures that could occur in the future if not known about,especially when operating aging aircraft. The travelling public deserve the right to feel safe when they fly in PNG skies.

Another area they want to overhaul urgently is ATC and flight service. If they can't overhaul the system,shut the whole thing down and operate on company SAR's and pilot to pilot traffic avoidance/communication.

TURBO TOOL


Hi Turbtool.

In answer to your first question. No I am not and in respect to the second comment, as my good pal Quixote said, “Que sera sera!

As you can see by my username, for many years if I wanted to say something, I invariably put my hand up to be counted not hiding behind a nom de plume, or false address. So be it.

As far as trying to unravel the reasons why or causes of all the prangs over the past ten or so years, I would not even try. I have no inclination to and will leave that duty to those who are employed to do so. As far as a shortage of funds, I recall a DAS years ago who would charter aircraft, buy tickets and gear as necessary on his credit card to complete an investigation. That shows dedication for a public servant above and beyond the call of duty!. Never got a ‘gong’ maybe never got too many thanks either; just went his merry way to try and find the truth and facts as to what caused a prang.

I do believe that one primary object of accident/incident investigation is not to apportion blame against an individual(s) unless suicide is involved, but to try and find the facts so that hopefully, occurrences of a similar nature may be reduced in the future. Sadly, even with many years of CRM training since the good old TAA ATM days, we still read of over-runs, undershoots, CFIT, plus many others.

It does appear that even today when the holes line-up in the Swiss cheese, the inevitable may happen. When the wreckage come to rest, the fault may not rest with those in the sharp end, but may started years before due non-standard sops by a multitude of people.:)

Hi Guys
What's the chance of getting a job driving the 757 & 767. I am a current Capt on both and would be interested in joining Air Niugini. I have even flown a Icelandair 757 in the past! Can't find an email address to send a CV to any ideas? The web site has a snail mail address only.

Buckly's and no chance getting in direct entry on the 757 (or 767 if PX ever get one again :confused:). You simply won't get a lookin based on seniority, unless you are a PNG national but even then you would be very very lucky to even be considered unless you are a wantok of someone high up in managment. Even know the airline has a shortage of crews, they are filling the 757 openings from within.

On the other hand if you want to fly a Dash 8 or a Fokker 100, apply. All applications nowdays have to go through the HR department I believe.

Asianlonghaul
 

Asianlonghaul

Check your PM's. :)

Friday the 18th
 

BTW everyone...back on topic...

The E190 had some issues with getting certification from CASA, which has finally been done now. Looks as though it should be in operation on Friday the 18th...Time will tell.

EDIT: Apparently there were NO issues with the E190 getting certification from CASA as SkyAirWorld already had full CASA approval. What ever the reason... first revenue flight is anticipated on the 18th.

Many thanks NewZealand2 Great help. Not easy to find qualified B757 Drivers these days. Do PX have a 767 yet?

Not hiding Sharpie, I just think the philosophy of pprune is diminished by posting under real names. In my opinion there are better places for that. If you set yourself up as a target I don't think you should be all wounded if someone takes a little dig at you in jest, when you continued and expanded the thread creep. But “Que sera sera!"

Thank you for sharing you view and I must say I share your stated belief of the true aim of investigations. The Tokua incident does spring to mind though with many, including as I understand, the regulator's investigator, not satisfied by the finding of the company investigation of the time.

I think the E190 will be a great addition to the PX operation.:O

Turbotool.

Que sera sera remains.

Whatever the regulating body (or their spokesperson) says, to the best of my knowledge they did not provide the operating company their own version or results of their detailed investigation and I stand by the document presented to the operator's Board of Directors.


pleasant safe flying.

(have a read of Troppo in D&General&Aviation.)

Still wondering has a B767 arrived yet & if not when will it happen?
Many thanks

It is currently in AMS getting painted into PX colours.

Rego - TF-LLA

Not sure of the delivery date.


NZ2.

TF-LLA arriving in POM on the 28th of April, and entering service on the 3rd of May. It will be registered on the P2 register.

The E190 will be operating tomorrow.


NZ2.

It will be interesting to see who will fly the 767? Thanks for the intel.

Why wouldn't the existing PX 767 crew fly it?

They will be. Some are also being trained (or will be trained) for the 757.

Dreamliner or Dreamtime?
 

Article from today's PC.

PX to purchase new planes

Suggest 2010 is fantasy. 2 x 787 ...wow! Wonder what the business case was to support this. Good luck to them, but hope it isn't just another case of delusions of grandeur.

Dingo

I believe at least one will be purchased from Icelandair.

Was the comment regarding the IFE at the end of that quote meaning the E190 or the 787? :S


NZ2

NZ2

Are you saying that Icelandair has got an order in for a 787 which will be ready and transferable in 2010? I'm aware Icelandair is supplying the 767 shortly, but not aware of any future arrangements.

Dingo

Icelandair certainly have an order for the 787 but i really do doubt delivery by 2010. :(

Click HERE

Business case for 787
 

Lets see now.......business case for 787......a block of units in BNE, a few brown paper bags, and a couple of trips to Manila.

Bet a middle man was involved. Boeing probably have no knowledge of this order!

Chimbu Warrior,

Think you are very close to the mark. Closely fits the pattern that has emerged over the past 12 months or so.

So reassuring to have the Somare's involved! Why else would you buy outright and not lease?

The naivety of it all!

Whats the story with F100 recruitment? I have time on type applied to their add in the Australian a few months back and sent two updates since and have heard nothing.

Haven't we heard this before with a gentleman named Okuk (a guy in the old East West Airlines called him the Wild Irishman!) and the Dash 7?

Click here:
Air Niugini to boost fleet with 2 Boeing Dreamliners

NZ2,

This is just a repeat of the National article as posted above "Dreamliner or Dreamtime" #62.

:confused:

Apologies DingoMuddy.

Hi folks, nothing adds up. Way too many planes on lease arrangements in such a short time..
One would say someone is in a hurry to make a hansome commission... thats good old PX...:D

Embraer 190 Jet Receives 120-Minute ETOPS Approval
 

Aircraft is the first in the world to meet the new FAA certification requirements
(Sao Jose dos Campos, April 29, 2008) -- The EMBRAER 190 jet received ETOPS (Extended Operations) certification for 120 minutes, this month, from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). This third member of the E-Jets family, seating up to 114 passengers, had already obtained the same certification from Brazil's National Civil Aviation Agency (Agencia Nacional da Aviacao Civil - ANAC), in February of this year.

The ETOPS 120 rating enables the EMBRAER 190 to fly routes that have a diversion airport up to 120 minutes from the flight path. Therefore, the jet can fly long distances over oceans, deserts and other inhospitable areas, thus increasing its operational capability, everywhere in the world, especially in Southeast Asia and Oceania. This new EMBRAER 190 feature is already available on regular Air Niugini flights connecting Papua New Guinea and Australia.

In March 2007, the EMBRAER 190 obtained its first ETOPS certification, for 75 minutes. This new approval is not merely an extension of the limit existing prior to the 120 minutes, but it also involves meeting a series of more demanding requirements. The Embraer jet is the first in the world to comply with the new rules established by Appendix K, Part 25, of the FAA's regulations, showing the high quality and extensive operational capacity of the EMBRAER 190.

"We are very proud of receiving this further certification, because of its complexity and the significant contribution it makes to increasing the reliability and flexibility of the E-Jets," said Antonio Campello, Embraer Vice President, Programs - Airline Market. "ETOPS 120 minutes will help us to expand the competitive positioning of the E-Jets in such important regions as Southeast Asia and Oceania, where we offer our customers a product that provides a variety of marketplaces with comfort, efficiency, economy, and the highest quality available on the market."

Source : Embraer

Really? I'd have thought that it was up to Sky Air World and CASA.
In any event, I'd be intrigued to know how or why it would be needed on this route.

OzExpat
You are correct. The FAA approval for the airplane (E190) ETOPS operations is a different certification process.
For the Australian CASA approval process, the operator, SKy Air World would have to prove to CASA Australia for ETOPS operations.
This approval process would take up to 12 months.

I would be surprised if the E190 operation required ETOPS.

It surely would operate between POM and either BNE or SYD within normal 60min criteria.

Maybe I am missing something?

Last week I flew down to Sydney in the E190, and I would like to say that I was extremely impressed by the aircraft and service. The only problems with the A/C that I found from a passengers point of view, is that it has one toilet for economy passengers and no entertainment system. The waiting time to get into the toilet was about 5 minutes after about the 2nd hour due to the amout of drinks the cabin crew were serving. Good cabin service, as per usual from the girls :ok::ok:.

As far as the 120 minutes ETOPS issue goes, it would be very handy to have if PX had a couple of these machines doing more frequent low capacity services to their existing international destinations.

Very very good aircraft :ok:.

Won't really matter with the demise of ETOPS upon us.

Sleek looking jet.

PX’s new Boeing 767
AIR NIUGINI last Friday took delivery of its new flagship, a Boeing 767-300 wide-body aircraft with a seating capacity of 214.
The aircraft, in full Air Niugini motif, will be used on the airline’s Asian routes of Singapore, Manila, Hong Kong and Narita from Port Moresby.
It will also serve the Port Moresby to Brisbane and Port Moresby to Sydney routes.
The plane was secured under a wet engineering lease arrangement with Icelandic Air and it will be operated by Air Niugini’s pilots and cabin crew on the specified routes.
Independent Public Business Corp (IPBC) board chairman Sumasy Singin, who officiated at the arrival of the aircraft before invited guests and dignitaries, commended the airline company’s board and management for securing the aircraft.
“The international market for wide-body aircraft is very tough and Air Niugini board and management are to be complemented for securing this aircraft through Icelandic Air.
“Our international passenger number has increased and with the intended demand from resource projects, this aircraft will be a valuable asset to Air Niugini and PNG as a nation,” he said.
According to Air Niugini, the new B767-300 flagship offers 30 business class and 184 economy class seats with greater seat pitch in both cabins which means there is more leg room for passengers.
The aircraft is powered by two Pratt & Whitney 4000 engines, has a maximum take off weight of 181,436kg and 144.7 cubic metres of cargo capacity, which will also provide adequate cargo movement.
This aircraft replaces a previously leased Airbus A310 wide-body aircraft from White Airways, which was both flown by White Airways’ own pilots and cabin crew, and was also maintained by the same company.
The Airbus A310 has since been returned.
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