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UNOME 29th Jan 2008 12:29

Jetstar The Poacher 11
 
If we ever needed more positive proof of the link between PPRuNe moderators and Jetstar management, THEN the premature closure of the below, fledgling and active thread is it!

One loose word by one poster closes a new thread... nepotism at its best!!! :mad:

BTW, the word concerned is NOT viewed by the greater public as offensive. Just a lame excuse for the moderators. :rolleyes:

The concerned thread;

The genius management team at Jetstar have just realized that poaching the main players from Tiger Airways will hobble the rising giant.

I hear the Chief Pilot,Training Manager, Ops Manager, along with almost every other Tiger pilot, has been offered a very desirable position within Jetstar. Even senior Tiger first officers have been offered DE commands in Jetstar. :confused:

Many of those contacted have been rejected outright during the selection process in the past, apparently they are now very acceptable.

Although... many of the Jetstar key players have never been though the selection process or in fact, have failed it, only to be given a management position.:cool:

Ethical? Not a philosophy associated with Jetstar management.:suspect:

Ralph the Bong 29th Jan 2008 16:45

Chill UNOME.;)

I agree, a big joke. But who would leave Tiger for J*? What could J* offer the Flight Ops team at Tiger that would entice them away? Has Mark been offered the Squeeler's job? (that would be funny!).


Sounds like J* are increasingly desparate.
:ok:

Tidbinbilla 29th Jan 2008 17:55

It's up to YOU
 
Sort your life out, UNOME. You've got no idea of who I am. I could not be more distanced from Jetstar than any other contributor to these forums.

The thread was closed because it was degenerating AND because of the use of that word. We mods decided years before you joined that such use of the word was not appropriate in these forums.

We don't have to justify our actions to you or anybody else on PPRuNe (except Danny). If you don't like it, get out!

Nepotism is to do with jobs for kids. What does that have to do with me? I would never recommend a career in aviation to my kids :}:}

And it's knobbled (as in horse), not hobbled :}

We will let this thread run for the moment. Your behaviour will decide whether it remains open.

Cranky TID.:suspect:

WynSock 29th Jan 2008 18:07

I don't know tid, ............since you brought it up.


Unome might be corect on that bit of grammar -


to hobble
  1. To restrict a horse with hobbles.
  2. To walk unevenly.


:8

UNOME 29th Jan 2008 21:35

Tid

I have no argument that you have the surpreme right to moderate (and educate) we PPRuNers as you see fit.

There is however, a very obvious trend involving the restriction of any "perceived" negative Jetstar threads.

The poacher thread is very factual and more than newsworthy, for both Tiger and Jetstar pilots.

So we don't make the same mistake again here, which part of the thread did you personally find "degenerating"?

Ralph...funny that you should say "chill". It is bloody freezing here in London, hence my lurking (and getting in the poo) on PPRuNe!!

I only know the CP Ken through his QF brother. The word is that DEC and some management/ training/ checking roles are being offered. :ok:

marty1468 29th Jan 2008 23:41

What was the word then? I'm hanging to find out. I suspect it was the "Y" word used in relation to our SA cousins. I have seen it before on PPrune though although i wouldn't use it myself.
All in all i found the thread interesting though as it highlights how desperate things are becoming here in Oz. I might be in for a shot yet. Gotta get some more hours up first tho :O

Gnadenburg 30th Jan 2008 00:14

Unome

I think J* are actively poaching pilots anywhere they can. I would suggest it is merely an anti-inflationary tactic aimed at preventing a wage blowout ( sic ).

I hear they have targeted Dragonair's check & training department too- where despite a modest payrise a handful have taken up a J* offer.

bushy 30th Jan 2008 02:07

What's new?
 
That's what airlines have been doing for years. It's cheaper to pinch someone else's pilots than it is to train your own.

jangerlingjangerling 30th Jan 2008 02:57

Its cause he said Jetscab

MUNT 30th Jan 2008 04:10

Has anyone actually "crossed over"? From what I hear, that wouldn't offer any particular advantage...

Fonz121 30th Jan 2008 10:05

Whats wrong with the Y.... word?

Noun

Singular
yarpie

Plural
yarpies

yarpie (plural yarpies)
  1. (pejorative, slang) A Caucasian South African man.

We don't want Jetstar turning into Bondi Junction.

Solid Rust Twotter 30th Jan 2008 11:14

Yarpie? So what? I is what I is.....:E


Please tell me the Skippies haven't become sensitive little chrysanthemums.:rolleyes:









Sticks and stones and all that crap....:}

Edited to add: It's spelt Japie and is a contraction of the name Johan. Just so you get it right...:ok:

captaintunedog777 30th Jan 2008 20:16

Gee why would you not leave Tiger for Jetstar

Are you people really that stupid.

THe conditions and money is heaps better from what I hear
You have a career path if you choose

NZ X man 2nd Feb 2008 01:33

Tiger
 
I am sorry, not going to get involved with the mud slinging, but could someone give me a contact for tiger, would like to submit a resume if at all possible.

Thanks in advance:)

Ralph the Bong 2nd Feb 2008 02:30

Now that's a good idea!
 
Yeah, I might drop Tiger a line as well. Only so I can make a "deal" with J* and get poached!

Let's see... I think the post of "Director General Flying Operations and Safety" would be a good starting offer from Jetstar.

Jet* to pay for J class transport and premium hotel accomodation during interview period. Plus meals. And drinks.

Starting salary $500k. With options. Saturdays and Sundays as RDOs. Office with view. Two J* FAs (female) to assist me with my personal 'requirements'.

J* to pay for removal costs, plus legal and stamp duties...

Have I left anything out?? :cool:

airtags 2nd Feb 2008 02:52

maybe add in;

complimentary annual Qantas Club membership and
of course priority upgrades when on staff travel - (but I believe the LAMES will get their upgrade first)

a whole new meaning for what they call Star Class ...........

jack red 2nd Feb 2008 04:23

You want to fly for Tiger?.....................

GO CAT !

TurboOtter 3rd Feb 2008 18:48

Unome,
I feel the same way, I don't frequent here as often as I used to and I now rarely post for I feel the moderators are doing more than that these days. From the side line you can see they are pushing there views and opinions and justifying it by their position.
They seem to forget that this site is the profesional pilots RUMOUR network.

Moderators should let threads be, sure when they get turned into a big mud slinging fight then step in, but if one or two bad words get said, just let it be.

tail wheel 3rd Feb 2008 19:44


"If we ever needed more positive proof of the link between PPRuNe moderators and Jetstar management..."
Probably the most incorrect/untrue statement I've seen on PPRuNe in over a decade! :}

Of the twenty four threads on Page one of Dunnunda Reporting Points, four relate to Jetstar, six relate to Qantas, a total 40% Qantas Group. We often have too many Qantas/Jetstar threads in Dunnunda, many of which are interrelated, hence are merged into one thread.

It may come as a surprise, but there are some of us not associated with the Qantas Group in any way, who would like to read other aviation topics of wide industry interest. :ok:

Tail Wheel

RadioSaigon 3rd Feb 2008 20:49


Originally Posted by Tail Wheel
It may come as a surprise, but there are some of us not associated with the Qantas Group in any way, who would like to read other aviation topics of wide industry interest. :ok:

Woohoo!!! Hear, Hear!!! YUP, bring it on!!! :)


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