All that aside..........did anyone watch it? anything good?

So, you obviously didn't watch the 7:30 report Frozo?...

you Idiot!

Given the low minimum requirements for the MPL they mentioned ... I can only imagine that the pilots will have to clearly display a red P plate, not travel in excess of vref+80, be in before dark and not have any more than two passengers. :ugh:... and you'll graduate to a "lucrative position" :confused:

Strewth! Are you for real Mate?:rolleyes:

Luckily AIPA are here to save us from the bad men...;)

Just downloaded the show from abc.
Stewart Cameron was X RAAF according to the show, and I'll be he was a Pilot to.
A load of Bollocks I say.
Yeah that **** sim looked real enough.:D ooohhh heavy rain and crosswind
unbelievable.

TRAINEE PILOT: Note that the weather is raining.

And this astute observation from one of the lucky trainees:

"Aviation is cool. In Australia is the best in the world, the whole world. The instructor here, they are amazing. They have a lot of knowledge to teach us."

Not a mention was made as to how the holders of a Multi Crew License gets to be a Captain.

Its got nothing to do with enhancing safety but everthing to do with filling all those shiny new jets coming off the production line.

Exactly.....

Good Grief!
 

Yes. The new brave world of pilot training to get the RHS filled.
So the F/O turns up one morning and meets the Captain, who says " what's your flying experience mate?". Bloggs says: "200 hours Skipper - 190 of them in a simulator".
"190 hours in the simulator!!!?" exclaims the Captain.
"Yes" says Bloggs, "But it was high fidelity, because Stu said so on the 7:30 report"
Good Grief.:ugh:

Bottom line, IF IT IS NOT BROKEN, WHY FIX IT.
They were saying that training in light singles is not relevant to flying 2 crew airline aircraft. Well it doesn't matter what you fly, what matters is getting very compotent at COMMAND DECISION making. Believe me, fly a single around the bush up north in a thunder storm, or coming in to land with Cross wind right on the max on a short dirt strip up north with plane full of pax, these things get your decision making skills honed right in. Or learning the pressure of commercial operations, dealing with passengers, loading aircraft, refuelling aircraft, making sure your get in before last light and juggling 3 chickens to boot, all the while your GA boss is on your back, you know what I mean. All these things happening at once, then get in the Aircraft and have to fly it after all the pressures I just mentioned. You can't teach that you have to learn that.
AND THIS FOOL FROM CASA, SAYING WELL WE CAN PRACTICE FAILING ENGINES ON A 747, YOU CAN'T PRACTICE THAT IN THE REAL WORLD. Well that is what you practice when you get to Qantas, and you will handle it alot better when you have had some real world experience.
The reason why Aussie pilots are so well respected around the world is because of the way we have all had to train and the great experience you get in this country. THE MOST DANGEROUS THING TO AVIATION IN THIS COUNTRY IS CASA, WITHOUT DOUBT!!!
:ugh::{:ugh::{:ugh::{:ugh::{:ugh::{:ugh::{:ugh:

Casa Moving?
 

Any truth in the rumour that CASA is moving headquarters to Mumbai?
Baldrick says Hooraaaaay!:D

OK Guys & Gals,
We were probably all expecting this response. All things aside I still don't understand WHY we need this licence in Australia???

Now more than ever there seems to be plenty of GA jobs out there for Newbies. And the regionals are starting to seriously hurt.

The 7:30 report quite correctly stated, The latest simulators can train pilots for situations not able to be reproduced in trainning aircraft.

OK, true to an extent. Why not put a 1000hr- 1500 hr GA pilot in there instead of someone with 10 hrs. Then they have the mix of both worlds.

RC

R.Cruizo

That is a much more mature and calmer response than mine, I just get so angry with the Stupidity of CASA. You are correct, plenty of pilots around with some experience of the real world, give them a go.

Just watched it on the ABC website.

I think the quote was "driving rain" but the sim had about 10km vis. Maybe the instructor has seen about as much driving rain as the cadets.

The blind leading the blind - scary stuff but think of the size of the bonus mamagements get get from all the money saved?

How do you know an airline pilot used to be in the RAAF ?

He will faarken tell ya :ok: :ok:

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Didn't you realise that CASA's call centre is already in Mumbai? They just have us fooled with really good Aussie accents :)

Remember those times??
 

How many of us remember being alone, way out in the middle of nowhere, saying "I'll never, ever do this again"
I don't think simulators can replicate that.
Maybe that's good.

PAF
 

Don't you read the papers?
They already do and from an in siders point of view he said they do it quite regularly.
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I wonder if YBAF's owners have worked out how to moniter the number of 'movements' on the sim and what the landing fees will be:E

Rekon Bob'n'Gordon would've got a little nostalgic over some of those shots :{

Guys,
Pass A Frozo's comments have some relevance but his Army analogy circumvents his arguement.

Running around Canungra or Singleton on Live fire excercise is great for trainning but the most respected man was always the Platoon Sergeant or CSM ( WO2). Until recently had seen Battle. Nothing replaces that experience.

State -of - art Simulators are an excellent trainning aid. They can reproduce situations not able to reproduced in a Trainning aircraft.

They have an important place : FOR ALREADY EXPERIENCED PILOTS!

RC