VB ad today's Australian
 

Looks like recruitment is about to ramp up. Ads for both Embraer f/o and
737ng f/o.

Good luck to all who apply, and if the rumours are correct about VB targeting a certain regional, there might be some Dash 8s being parked before long.

Figures I've heard they are looking at 80-100 pilots before the end of October.

Minimum requirements:
B737NG type rating

So, you have to pay for your endorsement then??:ugh:

The advert for the 737 asks for the endo and 50hrs on type. Yet the Embraer advert does not ask for the endo nor time on type. Maybe its free/bonded/salary sacrificed on the Emb and all new pilots go onto this first? Any one on the inside know?

Does anyone know where they plan to endorse the Emb pilots? Is it in Hong Kong or are there plans to get a sim in Australia before they ramp up recruiting and training. A trip O/S for the endo could be very expensive.

What were the final pay scales agreed upon for the Emb in the EBA? I know there was a thread on it but I cant seem to find it using the search function.

Its good to see another surge in jobs coming up, however it will be good to find out all the terms.

Bulla

EMB endo's
 

Endo's and training in singapore for the moment but EMB sim in Brisbane for January.

From the horse's mouth

OK..they expect you to pay for your own endorsement (bad enough), but if you do this, just how to they expect you to get 50 hours on type? Buy it!!??:confused:

This ad I think is aimed at experienced 73NG or classic guys for a quick start (ie already endorsed).

Who are experienced 737NG pilots... Slice?? the guys flying Dash8's?? :confused:

Who are the experienced 73NG or classic guys ?

The pilots flying for Jetconnect, Air Van, Express Freighters, Air Pacific, Hong Kong Express etc etc etc.

So VB, you are struggling to find applicants for the EMB!!

No surprise, the pilots in VB's upper ranks have told you guys in management this.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys, the only thing is the zoo is runnning out.

As far as I am concerned and so many more pilots, you can shove it!!

I don't see this job as a step forward. Unless you are flying a Chieftain a 404 or Baron, then maybe.

Anything above 5700kg moving to the EMB, I don't think so.

Good luck! L-oosers.

32 megapixels

What exactly do you think they are paying for the Embraer?

Not that it matters - I suspect from your post that you may have missed out recently.

Can I remind you of your words not all that long ago?

Its all part of the industrial process. "We advertised and had no takers, please Mr President, can we have our 457 visas now!!!!!!!!!" And if this happens, what then happens to all you guys still in GA. Think long and hard my friends. Dont get me wrong, I think it all stinks......:*:*:*:*:*

Bullsh*t you do. With comments like ...if you're not VB management, it won't be long before you are!:mad:

That's OK, I am prepared to give the EMBs a go!

Don’t worry, I’m probably a stubby short of a six pack but for what it is worth let them have the 457 visas along with every other airline in AUS.

If the trees in AUS are so picked clean of drivers; and then, given we typically have an oversupply, I suggest that there would be very little takers given the conditions on offer. The end result will be park or pay (given no major disaster).

Quadrapuff,

Check my posts fool. All I said was think long and hard. Playing devils advocate that's all. Think about the alternatives. My post was generally in response to 32 megs previous post. I don't advocate what's happened at VB and/or J* at all. If you want to fly a chieften forever, good luck to you. Personal attacks only demean both you and our profession. There's only one way to solve this industries woes and that's for us all (jet/GA) to be represented on one united front. But I can't see that happening. The AFAP (didn't they help us out in our EBA...NOT) dont want to know about any other unions/associations (look at their efforts with AIPA and VIPA) and they're all for the MPL (which I think will only undermine our position further). Contrary to what management would like us to believe, the crunch is coming and they will do anything to avoid it, including importing drivers. It is happening now in nearly every other profession in the country and it most likely will happen with us, very shortly. Where does that leave you my neandethal friend. Look beyond your furrowed brow and make a rational informed decision on your future for the next 30 years. And FYI, I voted NO, pleaded on the line with guys to vote NO, unfortunately have to wait another 4.5 years to correct 'our' mistake, have been offered management positions on and off over the last 20 years, always politely declined because I'd probably have had to deal with people like you? And I trust that the paying public can count on your application embargo. Idiot!

Pheeeww!!

Struck a raw nerve there methinks BAE146.

Before you get stuck in N.I.E, playing devils advocate is fine, but I think we may be missing the point.

They are desperate!

DJ advertising in the Aussie,

REX doing roadshows,

Numerous other operators, including those above advertising overseas!

Give me a freak'n break!

All and any of the suitable applicants for these positions are mearly a mouse click away. They, (the operators) either don't get it or are clutching at straws. Probably both.

I'm amazed that It hasn't sunk in yet. Like all the others, DJ are going down to the wire with every half ars@d hair brained scheme that HR, (we all know how bright they are..) can come up with.

The idea of advertising for experienced 73NG drivers is just another example of how out of touch they are.

In the end, only one thing will fix this problem. MONEY, and lots of it.

Money???
 

Paying big bucks to hire bitchy, negative, overage, underqualified stirrers is the last thing they will do. They may have to, but it will be the last thing.

So what are the Pays For Capt n FO going to be?

That is base and after allowances for the Year

Cheers :)

So, are they going to charge for the endorsments on the Jungle Jets?

Looking at the website, it still asks if we are willing to pay for our own?

S2k4