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G Cantstandya 14th Apr 2007 08:18

Seems a lot of pilots with REX are very unhappy, I don't think management are going to give the flight crew any decent kind of a pay rise whilst the current owners have their hands the company.
As mentioned in previous posts there is no doubt that L K H is fattening up his pig for a sale, the next eba is a little over 12 months away and while rex can still employ pilots, things will not change.
I beleive if the pilots have any chance of a better deal they have to work to rule now, not in 12 months......the pressure must be applied, people need to send as many emails as possible to L K H, links to this post and put pressure on the PC, when a few planes are parked they may listen!!!!
I personally know of over 15 guys who are leaving in the next couple of months and i'm sure there are many more.......With so many guys leaving, now is a perfect chance to try and better things and stop doing the job of a cleaner, dispatcher, load controller, porter, baggage chucker, etc, etc :ugh: :ugh: and just be professional pilots as I know most of the crew at REX are.
Good luck guys, your gonna need it...............thank f#$k I got out a while ago!!!!!!!!!

wombat1 14th Apr 2007 08:40

I haven't read all the threads[it may of been mentioned] but haven't REX pilots been given a parcel of REX SHARES ? These have doubled in price Anyone know how many were given ?

Playne Krash Fiona 14th Apr 2007 22:59

Looks like theres a bit of momentum building up mongst the Rex troops.
Would be interesting to hear if you guys are starting to get any feedback from management over these issues since this thread started.
I reckon you've got a fair chance if everyone on the shop floor pulls their weight and sticks together.
From what I hear Rex are very reliant on crew coming in on rdo's.
Dig your heels in and go down to the CBH instead. Flights will soon start getting cancelled!!
Aussie investors are very astute and will start cashing in, share price will then start to fall. This happened after the recent SA news.

The action you guys take now could possibly affect the industry (regionals) for years to come.

Naverick 15th Apr 2007 22:48

A number of REX Adelaide pilots have applied for the Alliance F50 positions.

Their advert states F50, ATR, Saab etc endorsed pilots are invited to apply.
I can't really see many Skywest crew jumping ship. My guess is that most of the new hirees will come from REX. Rosters there are already stretched! The Adelaide base, has traditionally been where a lot of guys see out their careers. It has therefore never really caused a headache for management, as far as vacant positions are concerned. Until now.

As originally posted, REX pilot exodus well and truly in motion.

KRUSTY 34 16th Apr 2007 01:37

REXPC meeting finally rostered for the 30th April.

All the aforementioned grievances will be placed before management on that date. This will not be an EBA negotiation as such, because the EBA still has some 14 months to run.

The hunt for qualified pilots over the coming months will only intensify as the major carriers rush to snap up the last available suitably qualified candidates.

How REX management respond to this crisis will probably determine the very future of the company. To date their silence has been deafening!

What's that old analogy? Fiddleing while Rome burns....!

wrongwayaround 16th Apr 2007 01:55

oh dear! My breathing turning very light after reading your post krusty. and this is probably the calm before the storm?
also Krusty, when you say (refering to REX)

The hunt for qualified pilots over the coming months will only intensify
What are the qualifiations you speak of in this respect?
and also...

as the major carriers rush to snap up the last available suitably qualified candidates
What are the qualifications you speak of this this respect aswell?
Cheers,
WWA :ok:

KRUSTY 34 16th Apr 2007 02:40

wrongwayaround,

I guess it was a bit cryptic.

The "hunt", IMHO will be by every operator currently looking to either expand their ranks, or attempting to replace their losses, probably nearly everyone!

"Qualified", lets see, what would be the mins for most airline operators, 500 multi command, 1500 total perhaps.

The pool is definitely getting smaller. I have it on good authority that our company will park aeroplanes before they lower the entry requirements.

When finally faced with the reality of the situation, it will be interesting to see how they respond.

neville_nobody 16th Apr 2007 04:12

Well maybe they should start looking at lower minimums. They do it in the USA. Regionals over there don't have 500 ME requirements and they accept single engine turbine experience!

However no matter how low the minimums are people are still going to be walking out the door if the pay and (especially) conditions are poor. Sounds like aviation managers in this country are about to learn a few things the hard way. :ugh:

wrongwayaround 16th Apr 2007 04:37

Why in gods name would a company park aircraft!

A parked aircraft is an aircraft not making any mullah! :confused:

touchncloth 16th Apr 2007 05:52

Said company is losing disgruntled pilots to other carriers- not enough crew to fly all the patterns. Minimums won't be lowered due to poor performances by recent recruits. The pool is drying up, regionals will be hit the most I'd say:(

KRUSTY 34 16th Apr 2007 06:57

touchncloth,

In A Nutshell.

Krusty.

whogivesa???? 16th Apr 2007 07:08

Although the Alliance add states Dash 8, ATR, Bras, Saab etc, I think you will find those with Dash 8 time especially -300 time (due to similar engine and TOW) will be at the top of the list. Those with the Bras and Saab time would need considerable time on type.

wrongwayaround 16th Apr 2007 07:08

hi Mr Touchncloth

is the poor performance of new recruits due to them being completely hopeless, or is it the learning curve that they struggle with?

flyperth 17th Apr 2007 06:12

rex
 
Adelaide REX ex FOM is a great person. This person has moved onto better things. Looked after the Adelaide team as best as possible. A talented check and trainer with many years of experience. Good on him for moving on. Jealousy is a curse. With regards to the memo's if adults behaved like adults memo's such as the one's mentioned in this forum would never had been issued!!! Think about it.

I hear many REX pilots have interviews this week, and next with Alliance. Excellent work, I'm sure you will all do well. Rex employees are well known in the aviation industry as hard workers, Alliance would definately take this into account.

Just remember, if your not happy, apply with other Airlines. You will never know if you don't. So have the b*lls and do it. :D

Mudflat 18th Apr 2007 11:20

Flyperth...I had to read your post twice as I could not believe my eyes...a positive comment about the ex FOM in ADL. As a FLIGHT ATTENDANT I'm sure you enjoyed his check and training amongst other things. It's the pilots that seemed to have the major problem with him NOT THE fa's....funny that. i happen to know for a fact that after telling one of the "adel guys that he looked after so well" he would give a good reference and everything would be fine, he was no sooner on the phone to J* sticking the knife in pretty deep and telling them NOT to hire him. Who needs enemys with references like him.

jelousy is a curse, as you said, but I can't think of one person who would want to be in his lonely selfserving shoes for one day. maybe if he had the true happyness most of us guys had he wouldn't feel the need to be such a pr!ck to make himself feel good. Pathetic.

As long as the J*capts in Adel don't give him an inch they should be ok. Remember he has screwed over more people than Ron Jeremy and alot more people are being woken up to his games.

Guptar 18th Apr 2007 13:05

I have been reading this tread with interest. I cant believe what I am reading however, can and does a man actively seek out to destroy the career and future, not to mention that of his/her spouse and children, of another for strictly personal reasons. This behavior would not be tolerated in any other industry.

One may intesly dislike an individual, be glad to see the back of him, but to actively seekout to destroy that person is criminal. A bad reference for professional reasons is one thing, but for personal reasons is insane.

podbreak 18th Apr 2007 13:51

Guptar, sadly, yes.

There are loads of selfish brown-nosers who'd step on anyone to get ahead. It can be a disgustingly dirty industry at times.

Playne Krash Fiona 19th Apr 2007 21:02

Are eastern and sunnies crew as disgruntled as the rex's. Are there loads leaving also?

swab 20th Apr 2007 13:55

PKF. Hell YES, QFlink crews are disgruntled and like rex many pilots are moving onwards and upwards. People are basicalyy sick of being treated like mushrooms, not given credit for jobs well done and basically being taken for granted. Generally speaking for maybe 10 fo's getting an interview with Debtstar maybe one Capt. gets a go. Mind you some Captains are getting guernseys with asian and middle eastern carriers. The canberra base doen't have enough crew and a dash 400 is pushed against the fence there as a result. I'll bet london to a brick that the next 2 400's go to eastern and that the merger will be speeded up as a result so crews can be better utilised. :ugh:

Horatio Leafblower 23rd Apr 2007 06:12

Recruiting?
 
Are they recruiting? I no several pilots were interviewed earlier in the year but of the 3 peeps I no 2 got told "no thanks" and one hasn't even heard that! :ugh: :{ :rolleyes: :uhoh:

Cant be as bad as your saying.


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