Skippers to offer pilots 20% pay rise.
 

Skippers are poised to offer their aircrew an unprecedented 20% pay increase as a desperate attempt to stem the flow of what little experience is left.

The company is now staring at the reality of parking planes against the fence as aircrew numbers almost halve. The company has finally woken up to its ways after losing the first few of several contracts. The floored notion that pilot attrition is a direct result of pilots ‘wanting to fly a jet’ is going to be an expensive lesson.

The re-writing of the company business operations manual will soon have the word ‘Asset next to the word Pilot’ as opposed to dispensable.

Watch this space, and please don’t ask me to reveal my source as I will politely tell you to move on ;)

Rumour has it that the CP Mr. C is evening sending resume's to the jet operators. But don't worry Swanny, he has screwed enough pilots in his time at Skippers that his reputation preceeds him...........:p

illusion,

I've known a few CP's like that in my time. Management lackys, when they should be representing the best interests of the pilots in their charge. She's a small industry brother, and only getting smaller. Good luck to them and bring on the karma.

Sorry 'bout the thread drift.

If true, methinks they may be attempting to close the barn after it's bolted.

Pro-activity has never been the strong suite of most aviation managers that I have encountered over the years. Maybe time for a rethink boys.

Let the games begin!

Phhhhhwoar! Them "cadets" who have bought themselves a job have landed on their feet!! :} :D

Interesting times with the likes of Jet* recruiting plus Virgin Blue with their international 777, plus jungle jets, ops next year, and the likely QF recruitment soon I was wondering when the bite would take effect. It will start at the bottom and not trying to make opinions Im not surprised Skippers would be the first to feel the bite. After all you gotta pay to get in there. I think the first industries to feel the bite will be these turbo-prop operators like Skippers, and I won't be surprised to see it spread. I think the real victims in the near future will be the initial turbo-prob companies, as the lack of suitable applicants will start to really take the toll. As a plus side the decent companies that have looked after their staff will continue to prosper and us fellow aviators will continue to reap the awards. Umm thats all, as for all the other companies, I guess its stiff bikkies! You get what you sow and that will be a feature of the future I gather! People talk of the so called pilot shortage in Airlines etc but where it will really hurt is in the companies such as Skippers, after all why go to Skippers when you can go t Jet* as a cruise F/O on slightly higher pay?? haha .. :}

Skippers :when only the worst will do
 

i have watched the comings and goings at skippers for many years ; the way they treat staff ; the way they bully and cajole people ;the way they charge for endorsements ; the way they pay staff.
gee i'm glad i never worked their and thank god i work under a award that treats staff with respect and rewards a "fair days pay for a fair day's work ".
everyone has start somewhere but if you can give them a wide wide birth !!!!!!

cheers
dijon moutard:ok:

,,,,,,,,,,,sure sounds like Skippers & the likes are now reaping what they invested in in the past as in they gave little & their getting even less these days..........but..........& there's always a but here, the real long term damage will be when companies like Skippers for Eg. have to fold up or reduce in ops size & then offer even less, if that's at all possible. There are no winners here at the end of the day just greed & so called progress, two words that sadly often can be seen together in the field of aviation.

I just hope that pay increases as well as better job satisfaction now showing signs of being offered are two things that can keep our fragile industry going.

Tread carefully out there guys & gals the 'ice' of aviation is indeed at times very thin ! Good luck to all

.......we pilots may "win" in the end..........but at what cost?

Capt Wally

So what happens to the mostly mining contracts if Skippers, Airnorth, M@cair, Jet Craft et al, can't get crews to the mines satisfaction?

Any idea of when all this might be happening? I'm guessing it would mean new AWA's to be signed but would they require any commitment in return?

Aren't they taking on 300 hour cadets who are paying $35000 for a year in the right seat of a Metro?

I'm sure the auditors on the mining contracts would love to hear about that....:yuk:

Rumour has it that NJS, who have hundreds of pilots on their books have just had 83% of a 717 intake decline the offer because of the AWA! :D

If that's true, I hope everyone can keep it up. It will only result in better conditions for everyone. With the lack of pilots at the moment, maybe that explains the result. More people are able to choose where they want to work rather than grabbing at that first jet job regardless of pay and conditions. Well done guys/gals.

Payrise of 20% ????????
 

last known pay/award increase was around the year 2000 ; so 20 % pay increase divided by seven years turns out to be stuff-all.
get your hours up quick and get the hell out of the "hell-hole" ; a "ga" company is "ga" company !!!!!!!!!

cheers
dijon moutard :ok:

More boys off to Virgin and NJS... run boys, you're getting out just in time!! And more cabin chicks making the jump to the Rat... Good luck to ya!! :} :ok:

Maybe now the managers there will see just how hard these girls and guys who've left in the last few years actually worked... a lot bloody harder than any of them did, I'm sure!! Guess there'll be no more p!ssup weekends in Leeuwin then, eh??? :E

Is/Are Skippers paying the GA Award(98) or the Regional Airline Pilots Award(03)?

:confused:

Skippers and Work Place Agreements
 

Taggert
they dont pay the regional airline award that is for sure ; they have a piece of paper you sign (and not to long because you "ain't getting much in return").
the piece of paper you sign is different each time ; and they always come up new ways on "how to not pay you the going rate".
as for the stories of $35,000 bonded cadets : gee whiz ! ! old charles dickens and stories of those lovely old "work house's" of 19th century england spring to mind.
skippers are certainly reaping those rewards that they insist on giving to pilots on a daily basis.

cheers
dijon moutard:ok:

Maybe they'll get the message if you say:
"Sure, I'll negotiate an AWA. I'll take a 35% increase on your standard wage and you can pay for my endorsement. "
At a bare minimum you'll make them waste there time at hour much an hour? :E

Just flood them with applications and tell them what you will work for.

so maybe a $5000 pay rise.....? but read the fine print the cost of getting an endorsement will now be $55,000!


:ugh: :D

You guys cant be talking about the same Skippers that i've just read a glowing article in the latest Oz Aviation mag are you? they sound like a fantastic company and an exiting time to be there! :}

Don't virgin hire girls, Brasilian Bird?