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Vorsicht 25th Feb 2007 02:06

woodja
 
250k aus in the hand equates to 60k dids per month. I dont actually see how you are getting that. I can only assume that it includes a sh*tload of overtime.

V

74world 25th Feb 2007 05:04

VB
 
Woodja51, Mate, Who are you trying to fool by announcing 250K as a salary in EK????

Even if you are a DEC, that is: someone on a better salary than a guy promotted within, you would not come close to that amount!

Unless you employ couple of "russian workers" in DXB!!! :p

Don't forget that Ek's salaries are public knowledge.
Sure with the kind of money EK is paying you can have a "good life" in DXB (during your 8 days off), but you won't retire a rich man.

Stay in DXB, 1 less application in VB..... :ok:

sweetpollypurebred 25th Feb 2007 05:34

You know what Knackenburger you just stay up there with your little boy concubine enjoying your "special" lifestyle, and leave the "real" flying to the "real" men.
By the way, how are your command hours looking?:uhoh:

Wizofoz 25th Feb 2007 05:43

74 World,

Try this-

Hes been in 7 years = +3% a year
+ he's a TRE
+ Overtime
+housing (or utilities)
+Education
+profit share
+ (now) Flight pay.

You'll get to 250K AUD in a big hurry.

BTW, DECs get first year Captain pay.

fatbus 25th Feb 2007 11:38

some DEC,s came in at level 16,3 year FO goes to 13

E.P. 25th Feb 2007 11:40

There's a Tiger in the Jungle...
 
Can you imagine the howling screams when Tiger Airways Intl announces the start date of their very much intended Pacific flights!
By mid 2008 25 320s will be belting around the southern jungle, very ready and willing to feed the 4 340-500s being handed over by Big Daddy SIA.:ok:
SIA doesn't just want a little payback for QFs "generosity" over the years, its baby Tiger sniffs a big kill across the pond if it grabs the market first!
Oh did you also mention a few 330s for the OZ-Asia routes.... :}

otto the grot 25th Feb 2007 20:46

It's funny you should mention this E.P.

Tiger swears black and blue that they are just interested in the domestic market and that Big Daddy isn't using them as a launch pad into the pacific, but as history dictates, take everything Singapore says and apply the exact opposite.

Bring it on!!!

Gnadenburg 27th Feb 2007 03:38

Sweetpollypurebred wrote a while ago-


bet youve managed to negotiate a pair fishnet stockings into your contract knackenberg.
And now this -


You know what Knackenburger you just stay up there with your little boy concubine enjoying your "special" lifestyle
Now I'm not a psycologist, but I think Polly is continuosly questioning his own sexuality. Look at this-


the "real" flying to the "real" men
It could just be the banter of a blue collar labourer. So, in this case, I will alter my bet Polly. Instead of a bottle of Douro's finest, how about a slab of Vic Bitter on the liklihood you capitulate and offer to fly the 777 for little ( if anything ) more than you drive your 737 now.:)



By the way, how are your command hours looking?
Good. Why? How are yours?

Gnadenburg 27th Feb 2007 03:43

Importantly, Virgin Blue pilots have a measured bottom line from woodja51's admissions.

An EK pilot probably won't come home and do the flying for anything less than a current VB pilot's wage. And tax is scary for expatriates- perhaps get the ATO on board as further deterrence.

So despite the temptation, you won't have to fly the 777 for less than you do for the 737.

A small mercy.

meagain 27th Feb 2007 06:07

me
 
Gnad, I gotta tell you, it's not only EK expats 777 rated and ready to come home and work for VB 737 rates or maybe a little less. :p Your swipe about the ATO and tax would infer that expats are scared of the tax dept. WRONG. Many have come home and all the others that I know, know exactly what the tax implications are in their present and future positions. If not they are stupid, and most are not. Unless you are talking to them, don't guess, there are many just waiting. Ask VB how many 777 rated pilots have filled in the paperwork already ??

Gnadenburg 27th Feb 2007 08:11

meagain

J* International HR travelled the world looking for A330 drivers to poach.

Results? EK a few. One went back to EK. CX- offered but knocked back so nil. Dragonair- offered but knocked back so nil.

Now, you are telling me, 777 pilots from the above airlines ( discounting Dragonair ) are going to come racing home for less than VB 737 wages to fly 777 when their bretheren on the 330 didn't!

It doesn't stack up. I think you are trying to panick the VB drivers for an alterior motive.

019360 4th Mar 2007 10:28

Gnadenburg,

Its been a long day on my beloved 777 from Dallas, (didn't even have to use full tanks by a long way) and I amstuffed so not thinking straight...therefore must lean on your skilss and logic to explain to me exactly what the VB pilots could have done at start-up time or since, to make the world a happier place for Qantas pilots. And why. They're all volunteers, all earn more than a university professor or MP and can all presumably walk if they want. I just can't see it.

Tonite below 10,000 ft I managed deterioriating weather, a purser who wouldn't shut up about passengersmissing connections, a stream of ACARS messages (ignored), cross wind gusting above our wet RW limit at destination and alternate....and managed it well I think....but I'm just not smart enough to work out how things could be better outside the cockpit in Australia as long as AIPA believes that the purpose of other pilots in Australia is to support QF mainline conditions.

Please explain....really.

Need some red badly.

woodja51 21st Mar 2007 10:12

affirm!
 
yes had a look at the J* thing and would have stayed as I think in the longer term would be fine but I have lots of financial committments and needed a few more years to boost the retirement package up before coming home.
seems some guys not believe me about the money - I will fax them the pay slip if they like - not sure how else I have managed to get into debt from banks to the tune of 12 million dids if they didnt believe me?? I see someone else answered for me anyway.
name to directanywhere ??

cheers dude beers at barasti sometime??

Fluke 21st Mar 2007 11:01

i know you would have stayed if the corvette's could have been converted right hand drive. Cheers Brasti:}


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