If there is a 146/F100 on the ramp and a Dash 8-400, Joe public will take the jet over a turboprop. The jet could be 20 years old, the fact is the public see jets as being safer and more modern than propeller aircraft. Qantas dropped the ball by replacing the 146 with the Q-400, their replacment should have been a jet (B717 or E-Jet)

The E-Jets will allow DJ to operate the same frequency (with all jets) to smaller cities/towns that current receive only a turboprop service or 1-2 jet flights a day and the rest of the flights are turboprops.

15-20 years ago places such as Tamworth and Albury had jet connections from Sydney, now they only have turboprops. With the E-Jets coming there is a very good chance they will once again have a jet service.

Remember when Richard launched Virgin Blue, he stated he wanted to fly to towns that had a population of 100000, with the E-Jets this may finally happen.

.....sort of hard to argue the #,s on the 170,s and 190,S.........We have a few 170,s around the fleet and have a Huge# of 190,s ordered............talked to the the blokes that fly-em......... their only complaint....the $$$$$$$ they are being paid to fly them.......

A Capt on one of the 190,s will make about $80k/annum US....most senior F/O,,s(on the A320) make way more than that,so going back from F/0 to capt and earning less has become a major issue.....would be interesred to hear Virgins payscales????....

havent been in the 190 flightdeck but have jumpseated the 170...and men...its a tidy little piece of wahine for sure,well laid out....except for that stupid steering wheel yoke thing(bring it on CC).....all in all a nice way to spend a day in the office........ PB

Reminds me of my Concorde test flying days! :} :ok:

Capn Bloggs...your right mate....managed to get a couple of tiki tours in the Concorde as we used the same gates in KJFK..1-8.....brownosed those "junior pommy" boys for a look-see....and yes,the yokes are similar....beauty mate!!!!...PB

This will be the place to start, But I believe they are doing an up-grade on the software so it may be a week or so before you can submit.

Good luck :ok:

Shags

your employer will be loving your work! :hmm: Thanks for the endo I'm off to VB

Anybody else remember "VH-XFI" ???
Motor Bike handlebar, and no controls at all on the right !!!!!

Well Shags, IF VB are looking for loyalty your in for a challenge to prove it.

Anyway, hope it all works out:) .

Shags, It's bit like the chicken or the egg or story??

I'm not sure what came first - pay your own type rating, or reduced T&C's.

What I do know though is Pilots taking advantage of business's that pay for type ratings, and then nick off without any return of service, are not doing the rest of us any favour!

Sir ....... I didn't know that you had flown "Concorde"......... I'll salute next time I see you :rolleyes:

Skippers on the jungle jet to get 129K and F/O's 65%.

ANCaptain, no need for the "sir". Just "captain" will do! :D

Virgins with Brazilians...

Sounds like a PORN site!!!!:eek:

Apparently a "Brazilian Party" is being held later this month for staff. Am I the only one who's thinking that to keep in the spirit of the event, there should be some special "entry requirements" for all the hotties attending? I am willing to donate my services free of charge to man the door.

On the other hand, at QF I guess I can look forward to when the A380 arrives and they throw a dugong party - plenty of the old boilers would do a pretty good impression I reckon!

:} TL

Ummm no-one seems to have mentioned the security side of things at such ports as Tamworth, Albury etc. Do they have the requrired security measures that allow jet traffic? If not the who what and where comes into play. The pax will obviously pay for all for of this, prop or jet, but regional communities want frequency more so than jets.

In Saturday's Advertiser it was reported that Port Lincoln might see one VB jet a week. Hmmm. The council which has about 1500 ratepayers going to cough up the $10 - $15 mill for airport expansion? Don't think so. Rannbo's Government? Well they've just cut $20 mill from Education so also unlikely.

But VB might go after the BHP gig at Roxby which will have a jet capable runway soon.

Agree that jets are all so much more sexier than props, face value really.
And also agree that QF should have looked at the 170/190 series given that they all went for a fly in it, when it toured a couple of years ago.

Rex must be somewhat concerned depending on the routes chosen, but they seem to have a loyal following in many parts.

Airnorth? Will they continue down the jet path, or is the SP correct in that they are really after the charter bizness.

Interesting times ahead.

Rock On!

Capn Bloggs,

I hope you called yourself "THE Speedbird...":}

DJ, the security measures are exactly the same for props as they are for jets. If the outport has no screening, then PAX will have to be screened at the first port that has screening facilities. For VB, that will probably be the capital city. Otherwise it means all get off, go through the screening and re-board.

Aircraft over a certain no of seats must be screened no matter what. Is it 72 or 100?

Nope,
If you go into somewhere that has a sterile area, like Sydney, you must be screened no matter what. If screening is not available at the outport then the pax must be screened prior to entry of any of the terminals - even if they're just getting off, because they are required to transit the sterile area.

Aircraft capacity is irrelevant.

Anybody able to provide details on the delivery schedule?

All press releases to date have been very scant on detail??:confused: