Qantas increases A380 order
Qantas increases A380 order
October 29, 2006 03:10pm Article from: AAP QANTAS has placed orders for eight more of the world's largest passenger aircraft, the Airbus A380. The aircraft would most likely be used on long-haul routes between Australia and the United States, Europe and possibly the Middle East, Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon says. "Our decision to increase our order has been made after an extensive review of the recent problems at Airbus and the delivery scheduled delays of the A380," Mr Dixon said today. "The A380 has breakthrough technology and everything we have seen reinforces our view that it is the best available aircraft at Qantas." Twenty A380 aircraft are now due to be delivered to Australia between August 2008 and 2015. |
Better news for Jetstar than QF boys and girls however one would assume.
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How do the extra A330s help Qantas cope with the late delivery of the A380s when they do not do the same job as the A380s?
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Again where will Jetstar fill up a A380 with all economy (OK and Star class) seats in or out of Australia?
Dixon said, with regards to the two brands, that the capital will go to where the best return will be. In addition and by that stage Jetstar will be a stand alone entity and the economics of operating a small number of one type would be clearly seen as undersirable! There is no way that Jetstar will get the A380! := Good move getting a good deal with more A380's at the moment but the same person would not be stupid enough to move them to JQ. Better returns elsewhere with more margin! :ok: |
The total order of A380's for QF so far is enough to replace most of the B747-400's, keeping just the newest 400's and the 400ER's.
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Anyone know how soon before the first one is delivered?
aussie |
Aussie, do you follow the news? Even Airbus would be hard pressed to say when the first will be delivered, given the delivery dates have been put back at least twice already.
I'll bet the sweetner to QF to say onboard, let alone increase their order would be a beauty though! |
Interesting to note, the second last paragraph of the press release:
"All the costs of the new orders of our new aircraft will be met by operating cash flows" he said. Not raising equity or borrowing, but using cash. |
I think qantass has increased the order to get more compsensation (short term) who knows the special offer they got. this project could sink airbus so qantas compensation would be greater (long term)
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Redstone...wheres QF going to get the cash for the extra A380's?....I know, it must be coming from all the profit that Jetstar has created!!! Yeah right!!
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QF mainline
Qf has spent now many millions on the A380 project. it is in their interest that the A380 stays in the mainline and becomes their flagship product. SQ/CP have started a major product upgrade (which will take around two years +to complete), my gues is that GD & mates have decided to stretch the current,getting old and tired product, another two+ years. and lets not forget that GD is out the door in a couple of years.
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To re-emphasis the point that Jetstar will not get the A380, this quote from Dixon in todays Australian;
"Twelve is just not a viable fleet and we always intended to go firm with the options ... it's a very good package," So Jetstar getting a fleet of three, or anything short of twelve, will just not happen! |
Originally Posted by Pete Conrad
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Redstone...wheres QF going to get the cash for the extra A380's?....I know, it must be coming from all the profit that Jetstar has created!!! Yeah right!!
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That would be the same bickie tin the JPC use to negotiate EBA's....or is that magic lantern?
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The whole deal's fairly interesting given that:
a) 'bus would've had to come up with some sort of compensation for the Rat and Qantas in any case would've needed some sort of extra capacity due to the late 380 deliveries; b) the airframes that 'bus probably would've given to the Rat in lieu of the 380s (ie. 330/340 family) will now stick (thus they won't then be dumped into the secondary market, pressuring resid vals); c) much of the tooling for those airframes is probably already in long-lead in the form of certain 340s now not wanted by Emirates (ok many detail differences, but long-lead stuff like frames and panels); d) several 380 delivery slots have suddenly become available with the Hairy One deferring to 2013... (yeah, right) All makes for attractive pricing on both legs. |
Qantas Signs Firm Order for Eight Additional A380s
(21st December 2006) -- Qantas Airways has signed a firm order for eight more of the world's largest and most advanced passenger aircraft, the Airbus A380, taking the total number of A380s ordered by Australia's national carrier to 20 aircraft.
The formal signing, which also covered an additional four Airbus A330-200s, took place at a ceremony in Sydney on 21st December, 2006, attended by Qantas Chief Executive Officer, Geoff Dixon, Qantas Chairman, Margaret Jackson, Airbus President and CEO, Louis Gallois, and Airbus Chief Operating Officer - Customers, John Leahy. The orders follow a commitment announced by Qantas in October 2006. "The A380 is clearly the most suitable aircraft for Qantas to meet passenger traffic growth on our dense long haul routes. The aircraft will play a key role in alleviating airport congestion without losing capacity. It has breakthrough technology and everything we have seen reinforces our view that it is the best aircraft available for Qantas. It is an aircraft that will provide unprecedented comfort and space for our passengers and at the same time meet our payload and range requirements", said Mr. Dixon. Qantas was one of the first airlines to commit to the A380 in 2000, placing an original order for 12 aircraft, first deliveries of which will commence in August 2008. "A repeat order from a premier carrier like Qantas is more than a vote of confidence in the A380. It not only reaffirms Qantas' commitment to the product, it also shows that the A380 is an aircraft for the future of air travel. Certification has demonstrated that the aircraft is technically ready to fly. It also shows that the aircraft has all the characteristics in performance and comfort and economics to become a 21st century flagship for airlines", said Mr. Galois. On December 12th, 2006, the A380 powered by Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines, received European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) type certification, after more than 2,600 flight hours and 800 test flights involving five aircraft. During the certification process, the A380 demonstrated easy airport acceptance and compatibility by visiting 38 airports around the world, delivering outstanding flight performance and operational economics. The A380 also has the lowest fuel burn per passenger of any passenger aircraft, resulting in low engine emissions. In addition, it is one of the quietest aircraft ever and complies with the world's toughest noise restrictions at London's Heathrow Airport. Qantas is one of Airbus' largest Pacific customers with a total of 65 Airbus aircraft either in service or on order, comprising a mix of A380s for long-haul flights to the USA and Europe, A330s for Asian and regional services, and A330s and A320s for its low-cost Jetstar operations. Source : Airbus |
Originally Posted by Aussie
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Anyone know how soon before the first one is delivered?
aussie |
One of the "nephews" passed on to old Max that they saw A380 manuals being printed in an eastern suburbs printing firm for JetStar? Go figure!:confused:
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Don't think so...
I know it's a rumour network, but you still have to apply some common sense. Qantas (or their darling subsidiary) will be rushing to get their A380 manuals printed about the time the first one is leaving Toulouse (based on their previous track record with -400ER, A330 etc). No way Jet* or QF would have A380 manuals printed this far ahead.
I suggest your nephews know more about printing than the difference between an A330 and an A380 manual!! |
Maybe.
Well how about the rumour that JetStar A320's are about to be painted in Qantas colours? |
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