Woodja ....."but it won't take a rocket scientist to realise if they have 100 aircraft coming that there will be slots for every one anyway." 100 aircraft coming , where did that figure come from?

You may be happy with the pay, however, hope you have considered the rest of the conditions eg. days off per roster period.

Afraid I don't share your enthusiasm that because you are experienced and qualified they will be handing out management postions to keep you on as DEC's. Pretty sure any management roles are a closed shop.

Last time I checked an AO B767 average Captain made AUD235000 (all up)

That $235K would include all meal allowances and superanuation.

The figures some of you people claim that QF pilots earn is ridiculous. It seems they must take the most senior management pilot figures for a particular rank, add a multiple of at least 10%, and claim that is what all Qantas pilots earn.

Line 767 Captains are not on $290 P/A. Why do you think a lot of people stay as F/O's on the 400? Because they will not get much of a pay rise by jumping through all the hoops to become a Captain on the 767 or 737. And 400 F/O's are not earning $290K. Only Captains who are permanant pattern are. There are still plenty of Captains in Qantas earning less than 200K.

Aviation in Australia would be done a favour if people would not justify arguing for lower conditions based on the fact QF pilots are overpaid because Joe Blow has invented a figure of how much they earn.

Bazza, it is the politics of envy. I think there are some posters who like to post there assumptions, for that is all they are, in the hope that the media picks up on it as they know the media troll PPRUNE.
Who gives a stuff? So what if you didn't get into Qantas or dislike the company? You wouldn't be the first. I missed out but certainly don't harbour a big chip on my shoulder. So what? It is rather apparent that some people who contibute to this forum have personality defects and one can only assume that the QF psych test pick up these defincies.
Good luck to the Qantas blokes for having such enviable conditions.

EBD, I agree with you 100%. Seems it is mainly people trying to make the QF mainline drivers seem like they are solely responsible for the downwards spiral in conditions due to excessive greed. In order to justify the argument, they are dreaming up arguments and pay figures. It all comes back to people missing out, and people getting to speak to the vocal minority of egotistical tosser QF pilots who seem to think they are a cut above the rest (and probably tell people they earn more than what they really do to feel more important). What people don't understand is that these people are in a minority (like in any group of people - no airline is exempt from employing wankers), and the majority of us QF drivers would fit in anywhere and are dare I say it, are probably decent blokes. Just don't judge us all on the expressions of a few.

QF pilots are among the cheapest and most productive in the Western world. Compare our wages to BA, United, Cathay, etc., and you find we are very competitive. However, I think this country should be pushing for Jetstar and Virgin to be given a pay rise up to current QF levels, not the other way around. To get this to happen, the childish minority on both sides of the fence need to stop hurling insults and stones back and forth and actually try and do something to stop us all being driven eventually from the industry.

Anyhow, enough from me. It is perhaps time this thread died a natural death. I am sure we would all be better off for it. It certainly isn't helping the current situation at all, especially given the amount of crap and misinformation being peddled.

Two very good posts.

I agree...and on that basis let's end on this 'high' point.:D