I bet there are a few Compass 1 & 2 and Ansett people who wished they had believed what they read in the AFR, and bolted a little earlier! :ouch:
Lucky for the AO guys, they have the mainline safety net under their @rses this time around. You guys might not need to dust off the resumes, update the log books and head down to lowes mensware for a cheap polyester interview suit just yet....:E You might need to do those things for your JeffStar interviews though! :}
Seriously, I wouldnt wish that morale busting ****e on my worst enemy. Bl@@dy journos. :mad: fair enough unsubstantiated rumours on pprune, thats fair game, but in our ""finest" newspapers? "Thats just Unaustralian"! If it was fed to these parasites of humanity by management as Boyscout suggests, they too can consider themselves "Unaustralian". Surely management arent stupid enough to talk the company down when they are paid in accordance with its performance? As a passenger I wouldnt be racing to the travel agent to by tickets when Qantas is talking about shutting it down. Thats the bottom line, this sort of publicity in a price sensitive market forces people to travel with other carriers, or simply choose another holiday destination. It is not like the people in Cairns or the Japanese are starved for choice! You can see how some journo's BS can become a self fulfilling prophesy. :* :yuk:

Information
 

When you want to know anything talk to the caterers.
From CNS catering......
1.QF 60/167 WAS to go to AO.That has been postponed `til June.
2.This a rolling decision.
3.It is likely AO will be rolled into Jetstar.

the 'delay' is to allow for AO re-config for Premium Economy

Of course it is .........

AO is currently profitable only on the cns-nrt -cns run. the rest of the network is losing. its going to be interesting what they do with the surplus of qf seconded pilots. there is no way J* is going to pay AO pilots wages. cabin crew will be rolled over into J*.

AO is currently profitable only on the cns-nrt -cns run. the rest of the network is losing. its going to be interesting what they do with the surplus of qf seconded pilots. there is no way J* is going to pay AO pilots wages. cabin crew will be rolled over into J*. alan jouce has been put in charge of J* asia recently. the new plan has him take control of all J* (domestic, international, asia).
:ok:

AO don't operate CNS - NRT

Qcc2, interesting AO is only profitable on cns nrt when it doesnt even fly it yet! Do you mind having another look into your crystal ball and PMing me Thursday and Saturdays lotto numbers?? :}

AO pilots just go straight back to mainline in rank on the 76. Even if there are no requirements for 76 drivers. QF is very tight on the 76 at the moment, so they would be a welcome relief for the mainline guys.

Cns/nrt
 

AO were supposed to take the route in March...the beginning of BP 243.
It has been postponed 'til June

From the original press release:

and

From an Operations point of view, AO have always planned on CNS - TKO starting mid year.

From a management perspective, the last I heard recently was that QF would fly CNS-TKO on behalf of AO from March. Why it has been set-up this way I am not sure, but it seems to be 'Commercial' smoke and mirrors going on. Whether its slots, marketing, branding, codeshare issues or whatever I dont know.

Perhaps...?
 

A Jetconnect arrangement ....QF colours,uniform but employed by ADDeCCO?

AO to start flying cns-nrt by 1st week of MAY. I'm sure there would be some engineers in SYD or BNE that would know when the AO a/cs' are going into the shop for re-fit. 1st week of May spot on!!

With regards to AO being dumped! Just a brand change. AO will continue to operate out of CNS. Sorry to the long haul crew that were hoping for a return to Japan.

Actually, Cairns is the only place in Australia which is bucking this national trend. I saw the complete report in the paper the other day. Japanese numbers are actually on the increase into CNS. I know ive noticed it (work at CNS international)

part of todays statement by GD
 

it looks like GD waits until the new legislation is through and then paint AO planes back into QF colors

* The development of two distinct and competitive brands - Qantas and Jetstar in the premium/leisure market and in the value based market.
The Jetstar strategy involves expanding the domestic network, launching international operations and bringing the Jetstar Asia operation closer to the Jetstar Group. New Jetstar joint ventures are also planned for other parts of the world.
This will mean considerable growth for both brands, especially Jetstar internationally in the next three years, Qantas in new international markets, and the movement of Australian Airlines into the Qantas Airlines structure.

We should start a pool on when the exact same thing will happen with Jetstar as well! I have some thoughts on the issue but they would be considered 'inflammatory' so I won't bother with them.

Hey Keg... are your thoughts anything like mine, back on page 1?:eek:

From SMH 16/6/06

Is AO starting to look like a hot potato?

Can't see too much changing, just a re-organisation of management structure. QF will gain control, so will no longer operate independently. CNS base to stay. May even see an expansion on flying.
All will probably be revealed in the next few weeks. Keg is most probably right, one day it will be one again. Sadly not the way it once was.

mid assist

No Oz, my thoughts were nothing like yours. I suggested starting a pool and making some money from it! :p :cool: :E :}

And i suggest instead of complaining, get rid of the current government and abolish these disasterous new work- non-choices legislation, it is the bain of our future. That is our priority. It is ludicrous we have a party in power for such a long period of time, this is what happens when we allow it to occur...