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Mean, Nasty & Tired 25th Jun 2005 12:16

The Fed Secs left the sinking ship !
 
Is it true, the Fed Sec has left us to stew ?

Whose his @ssh0le replacement I wonder ?

Who will be our next Fed Sec in July 06 ?

Someone for christsakes step forward we need help :(

flyingfox 26th Jun 2005 05:12

more info....
 
Which Ship?:confused:

rudderless1 27th Jun 2005 21:51

the ALAEA, David Kemp has handed his resignation in. He is replaced by Tim Heywood with Steve Fenech as his assistant.

Mean, Nasty & Tired 28th Jun 2005 02:59

Great, one EAC for two QCs, Life just gets better and better.

Will someone start a post on who are, if any, reasonable candidates who will fight for our rights in the face of howard's industrial nightmare.

Time to get the SBU back, time to rejoin the fold.

Is that the sound of drums I hear ? :E

sys 4 28th Jun 2005 06:19

this is what we have representing us, a outburst like this from xxxxx xxxxxx is not going to help any members of the ALAEA



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:39 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Clearly then you have no desire to remain "informed" but choose rather to wollow in an environment of self pity and speculation.

Perhaps the only thing that will convince you is the disappearance of heavy maintenance from the airline scene and maybe then YOU can have the piric pleasure of sitting back and saying I told you so while the employees do battle with the reintroduced Transmission of Business clause that took so much work to have removed.

We don't have that luxury its about trying to protect jobs (especially those in marginal areas of the operation) above all else and O/T banking and no transmission of business does that for the time being at least.


No one has a crystal ball to forsee the future but surely a future without a Tansmission of Business clause is better than one that has it included.

Certainly Heavy Maintenance is balanced on a knife edge and which way it falls will only been seen in time but what is certain is that if it is to survive at all it must be able to sell its product intenationally and with its current cost base it cannot do that. If it can't then it and its workers may need the safety of the absence of a transmission of busines provision.

Many LAME's have more than 15 years service so you do the maths and figure out how much money they are gambling with.

Let us hope they never get to find out the hard way.

O/T banking doesn't work in Line because of the crew structuring and the smaller amounts of manpower available on any particular day but in heavy all the people are there all the time irrespective of if an aircraft is in the docking.

Even so it's VOLUNTARY (i.e. no complusion to join)

Much of the difficulty surrounding the airline and its employees is that for the most part they are long serving individuals who have only worked for one employer maybe two (probably both airlines) in their working life. This has led to a workforce that is well insulated from the real world and what it takes in society to earning what most LAME's earn.

Yes were "earn" it but can we achieve it outside.

Maybe you should give it a try sometime and check the job ads.

I don't see too many jumping ship to better paid private sector or non airline jobs do you?

So wallow if you will in your desires and your infalted opinions of what you believe you are "worth" the pilots thought that they were irreplaceable too and they had a labor government in power.

How many of them are back in the industry locally?

Perhaps what we need is a face to face education in the ramifications of the Workplace Relations Act to bring some reality back into the workplace I only hope that everyone is still here to see the new world order.

Turbo 5B 28th Jun 2005 07:10

It's good to see that the association is in fine hands.
It's time we had a wake up call.
I'd hate to have to "wollow in self pity" for ever.
Thanks Trustee 1, sorry assistant fed sec, I needed to be shaken in to reality.
Congratulations on your new position of responsiblity, obviously well deserved and earned.
You will have all of our respect and support for the next few months.

Oh look..... is that a flying pig?

AN LAME 28th Jun 2005 08:06


Great, one EAC for two QCs, Life just gets better and better.
One thing you can always rely on with QF LAMEs... whining. And look, it's mainly the same one's :eek: DK was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. The EBA has been voted on and whether you agree or not, accepted. Get over it.
And if any of you had ANY balls, you'd nominate yourselves (SCs) at the next election not look to the horizon for the great white hope.
Amateur, whining w@nkers

Crystal Marina 28th Jun 2005 15:21

AN LAME,
Well said and very true!:ok:

But the dedicated follows of the Messiah will be disappointed as the journey has been interrupted and they must await the second coming.

Wise men lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction.
:ok:

Mean, Nasty & Tired 29th Jun 2005 02:43

Thanks for your right of reply Fed Sec or should I say Ex Fed Sec, same as your tenure I see, good to see a few crumbs brought in the trouts. ;)

As for you Glass Swab or Fatman (as known around town), what was that sh!t you uttered ? :yuk:

I don't want to know what the wise do to knowledge and if the mouth of the foolish is near destruction, bad ****s' about to go down in Bexley.
:ok:

AN LAME 29th Jun 2005 04:58


Thanks for your right of reply Fed Sec or should I say Ex Fed Sec
Sorry to disappont Mean, Whinging and Boring. I'm not DK, just one of the many who disagree with most of the diatribe you and your whining colleagues rage on about.

As for Crystal Marina...I've not got the slightest idea what he just said:confused:

sys 4 29th Jun 2005 08:12

i think CM just said he was a D!CKHEAD,who thinks his time is just about up as he's misguided ways have cost him and the exec dearly as it will be shown in 12 mths time,what's more these d!ckheads endorsed trustee 1's rant by giving him the vice president's role until the nexted elections,what a way to rub Heavy maint noses in it.

Crystal Marina 29th Jun 2005 15:42

The Phoenix will not rise from the ashes as expected by its followers.
Disappointment will reign amongst them.
They will be cast into their ignorant, self made darkness.


Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

sys 4 29th Jun 2005 19:37

you just proved my point above CM you really do have your head stuck up your arse,why don't you come down to Heavy Maint and see how the blokes on the floor feel about you and your mates in Bexley.You are a DISGRACE what morals have you taugth your children in life.

Sunfish 29th Jun 2005 23:36

I guess the obvious question is what happens to the ex's Qantas career?

Turbo 5B 30th Jun 2005 05:56

They're recruiting in Bris H/M. Maybe when they don't get the numbers they'll need a Forstaff manager to organise a labour force to fill in the gaps.
And what the hell is Crystal Marina on?
If any of his colleagues at fed ex level know can they pass it on.
It seems as though he is having a whale of a time inside his own head.

fordran 1st Jul 2005 07:33


The Phoenix will not rise from the ashes as expected by its followers.

I didn't think the last Fed Sec had any followers in the first place.

Turbo 5B 1st Jul 2005 23:41

And I don't think that the appointed one has either.


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